[PSUBS-MAILIST] Alec's new sub

James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Wed Jan 7 07:58:52 EST 2015


Hi Alec,
Sounds veeeery interesting!  Looking forward to seeing some pics.  Tempted
to try and come over for the convention, I am overdue meeting everyone in
person.  I remember seeing some pics of "solo" ages ago.  The aft section i
think had 2 motors with a streamlined MBT\hull\motor cover with intakes
that looked like shark gills.  Best I can describe.  Is that all gone now?
Regards
James

On 7 January 2015 at 10:12, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Sounds good Alec,
> look forward to seeing it & the unveiling of
> the mystery stern.... a bust of Obama?
> Alan
>
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Pete Niedermayr via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:22 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alec's new sub
>
> Alec, Is the CT bolted on ?
>
> Pete
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 1/6/15, Private via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alec's new sub
> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 9:34 PM
>
> At the convention if it happens here!
> I'm thinking of a social event. I'll give you a few random
> high level attributes...
>
> The main cylinder came from my old project sub "Solo",
> shortened a little. It's good for 1000 feet but only for
> skinny people at 31" OD.
>
> The CT is from PC-1402.
>
> The hatch is PC1402 design, but newly made by Emile.
>
> Four fixed MK-101s, jettisonable and oil compensated by a
> new method, not the little wound-around hoses like Snoopy.
>
> Bow dome.
>
> Snoopy method of VBT floats but with way more of them.
>
> Every part other than the pressure hull proper is either 316
> SS or plastic. Every last little bracket, including inside.
> I hate rust.
>
> The stern... The stern... You will just have to wait for
> that one. I suspect one and only one person will love
> it.  It's guaranteed to be different, I'll just say
> that.
>
> The objective is for a 2 person boat that weighs less than
> 4500 lbs and launches at very shallow boat ramps, but which
> is practical in open water with 30" freeboard and an actual
> deck. Air tanks and VBT floats are replaceable without
> putting a diver in the water.
>
> The design philosophy is a search for radical simplicity. I
> want to ship this one around the world to interesting
> places, and cannot in those situations find myself lacking a
> spare part or the sub would become a giant paperweight. Thus
> the whole thing has very, very few parts, minimal
> electronics, components as accessible as possible, etc.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alec
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 2015, at 6:20 PM, hank pronk via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Alec,
> > When are you going to show us some pictures of your new
> build.  Perhaps even a teaser.
> > Hank
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Tue, 1/6/15, Private via Personal_Submersibles
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> > To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 6:13 PM
> >
> > Hank,
> >
> > Ha, I think I know that GPR is actually "GRP". But
> that's
> > about the extent of it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Alec
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:45 PM, hank pronk via
> > Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Alec,
> >> I had concerns about the GPR hull, only because I
> have
> > no clue about GPR hulls.  I though a new hull with
> CT
> > would be the ticket.  The domes rest right on the
> hull(
> > over 2in thick GPR)   It would be a
> pretty
> > simple hull to build.  A 32in dia tube with some
> > external rings and your away.  I actually saw this
> sub
> > in Nelson BC Canada about 20 years ago. I drove 5 hr
> one way
> > to see it, they bought it to do log salvage.  My
> > brother and I were already salvaging the logs they
> were
> > after :-)
> >> Hank-------------------------------------------
> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, Alec Smyth via
> Personal_Submersibles
> > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"
> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 3:16 PM
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >> this does not look like it could do any surface run
> to
> > speak
> >> of. Methinks you'd need a real surface ship. When
> you
> >> and Hank come BACK from Tenerife I'll tag along!
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Alec
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:04
> >> PM, swaters at waters-ks.com
> >> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> Ok. Thanks
> >> Hank.Scott
> >> Waters
> >>
> >> Sent from my U.S.
> >> Cellular® Smartphone
> >>
> >> -------- Original message
> >> --------
> >> From:
> >> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
> >> Date:01/06/2015  12:46 PM
> >> (GMT-06:00)
> >> To: Personal Submersibles
> >> General Discussion
> >> Subject: Re:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >> I lost the pics in a pc
> >> problem   You can contact Alan at
> > Silvercrest, he was the
> >> agent.  If you want to go to Tenerife to see
> it I
> > will tag
> >> along.
> >> Hank--------------------------------------------
> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, swaters at waters-ks.com
> >> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>   Subject: Re:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >>   To: "Personal
> >> Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>   Received: Tuesday, January 6,
> 2015, 1:36 PM
> >>
> >>   That
> >>   might
> >> be a possability! Do you have any pics of her? My
> goal
> >>   is 1000 meters or deeper, but
> depends on what
> >> options come
> >>   up.Thanks,Scott Waters
> >>
> >>   Sent
> >>   from
> >> my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
> >>
> >>   -------- Original message
> --------
> >>   From: hank pronk via
> Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >>   Date:01/06/2015  12:25
> PM  (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >>   To: Personal Submersibles General
> >> Discussion
> >>   Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
> >> Leo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott,
> >>   I don't know how deep you want
> >> to go and how much effort
> >>   you want to put
> >> in,,,,,but there is the Wrangler sub in
> >>
> >> Tenerife Spain.  The Wrangler is GPR with two
> > 34in
> >>   domes, one at each end.  One
> end opens as
> >> the
> >>   hatch.  My idea was to
> replace the
> >> hull with 516-70
> >>   steel with a CT.  It had
> >> a deal worked out at 50K
> >>   landed in
> >> Vancouver. I think she can do 2,000 feet.
> >>
> >> Hank
> > --------------------------------------------
> >>   On Tue, 1/6/15, hank pronk via
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >>   <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>    Subject: Re:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >>    To: "Personal
> >> Submersibles General Discussion"
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>    Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015,
> > 1:12
> >> PM
> >>
> >>
> >>    Scott,
> >>    Did he say where
> >> and how deep?
> >>
> >> Hank--------------------------------------------
> >>    On Tue, 1/6/15, swaters at waters-ks.com
> >>    via Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>    wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>    Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
> >>     To:
> >> "Personal Submersibles General
> >>
> >> Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>     Received: Tuesday, January
> 6, 2015, 10:57
> >> AM
> >>
> >>     An
> >>     update on Leo. Silvercrest
> claims she was
> >> sunk in
> >>   deep
> >>    water
> >>     after a insurance claim
> some time
> >>     ago. Thanks,Scott
> >>
> >> Waters
> >>     Sent
> >>     from my
> >> U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
> >>
> >>     -------- Original message
> --------
> >>     From: via
> Personal_Submersibles
> >>     Date:01/06/2015  8:02
> AM
> > (GMT-06:00)
> >>     To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >>     Subject: Re:
> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>     It would surely be nice to
> find
> >>     Leo. I'd go into hock again
> for that
> >> one, just
> >>   for old
> >>
> >> time's sake. That notwithstanding, I'm
> >>   virtually
> >>     certain that
> >> those particular hull(s) were built of
> >>
> >> A516Gr70, like most of the boats of the day (and
> most
> >>   of
> >>    the
> >>
> >> boats out of Nuytco currently, or at least the
> ones
> >>    without
> >>     cyrillic
> >> operating manuals).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    I don't remember how thick the steel
> >>
> >>    was, but it was definitely made from
> > standard stuff.
> >>   Plus,
> >>     the main viewport
> >> was 4 FEET in diameter!!! Diving
> >>   that
> >>     thing was seriously
> awesome. She had
> > plenty
> >> of room
> >>   for
> >>    two
> >>     (or enough for three good
> friends) and
> > that
> >> huge
> >>   picture
> >>     window in
> >> the front.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     If Hyco had survived (Leo
> was their
> >> last
> >>     P-style boat) I'm betting
> there
> >> would be more of
> >>   them
> >>
> >> out there. It was a serious attempt at Perry's
> >>     stranglehold on the shallow
> water market
> >> (shallow by
> >>     comparison) and I think it
> >> was a really good try.
> >>   Sadly,
> >>    it
> >>     all fell apart before
> >> we could really show her
> >>     off.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    We did all the deepwater pilot
> > training
> >>
> >>    in her down on the Flower Gardens,
> and
> > had a ball.
> >>   These
> >>     days, she'd be
> >> even better, because the
> >>   subsystems and
> >>     propulsion gear is so much
> better. That
> > sub
> >> was rated
> >>   for
> >>     2000
> >> feet, which ain't bad. How about that
> >>
> >> for an option,
> >>     Scott?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No fancy steel. Huge
> >>     viewport. 600
> >> meters. What could be better? A 6 1/2
> >>
> >> foot
> >>     sphere displaces less than
> 6-tons.
> >> Add a pair of
> >>   uncle
> >>
> >> Phil's aluminum pods in back with a block of foam
> >>   to
> >>     support them. Fair the
> >> thing like a fat tadpole. You
> >>   could
> >>     probably hold it down to 7,
> maybe 7 1/2
> >> tons.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Leo weighs 10. Most of the
> P-boats
> >> weigh
> >>     that, and a good bit more.
> Yours
> >> would be a
> >>   lightweight
> >>
> >> compared to them, a whole lot cheaper to build,
> more
> >>    agile,
> >>     easier to
> >> maintain..... The list goes on. What could
> >>
> >> be
> >>     better? Damn, I want one!!!
> It would
> >> be perfect for
> >>   my
> >>
> >> neck
> >>     of the woods.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Vance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >>     From: swaters at waters-ks.com
> >>    via Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >>    <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>     To: Personal
> >> Submersibles General Discussion
> >>     <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>     Sent: Tue, Jan 6, 2015
> >> 7:49 am
> >>
> >>     Subject:
> >> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Thanks for the info
> >> Phil. I keep running into the
> >>   same
> >>     problems of the material
> and building of
> >> the
> >>   personel
> >>     sphere.
> >>
> >>     Scott Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my U.S.
> >>     Cellular®
> >> Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    -------- Original message --------
> >>
> >>
> >>     From: Phil Nuytten via
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >>     Date:01/05/2015  8:44
> PM
> > (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >>     To: Personal
> >> Submersibles General Discussion
> >>
> >>     Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Hi, Guys, and Happy
> >> New Year to all loyal
> >>     subbers!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Glad to shed some little
> light on the
> >> Pisces
> >>   subs
> >>     . .We
> >> (Nuytco) have
> >>     four Hyco boats –
> >> 2/8/10 and Aquarius, P-4 and P-5
> >>   are
> >>    in
> >>     Hawaii at HURL
> >> (Hawaii
> >>     Underwater Research Lab)
>> >> they are out of
> >>   service,
> >>
> >>    currently and may be sold
> >>     off if no
> >> funding is forthcoming. I hope not,
> >>
> >> because
> >>    Terry
> >>     Kerby
> >> and his crew
> >>     rebuilt them into the
> >> cream of the Pisces crop! There
> >>   are
> >>     two Pisces boats in
> >>
> >> Russia, one operational and one in a museum (or,
> >>   actually
> >>    ,
> >>
> >>    outside a museum).
> >>     Pisces –1, is
> >> in the UK, last seen, it  was in
> >>   parts.
> >>     Likewise, P-6
> >>     is in
> >> parts (the stern sphere was lost in the sinking
> >>   of
> >>     IUC’s vessel
> >> ‘Aloha’)
> >>     and what’s left is in
> >> New York as Vance mentions. I
> >>   cut
> >>    a
> >>     deal with my old
> >>     friend  Andre Galerne
> (before his
> >> untimely
> >>   death) to
> >>     have
> >> first dibs on
> >>     buying P-6 to go into the
> >> ‘working sub’
> >>   Hyco/Pisces
> >>     display section at our
> >>
> >> long-awaited ‘Deep Discovery Centre’ diving
> >>   technology
> >>     museum. His
> >> sons, Lionel
> >>     and Eric were kind enough
> >> to honour Andre’s
> >>   wishes
> >>     and we will arrange
> >>
> >> shipment to the west coast when the weather gets
> >>   better.
> >>     Would appreciate
> >> it if
> >>     you would steer clear of
> this one
> >> – we do plan to
> >>    rebuild
> >>     to the same condition
> >>
> >> as P-4 and P-5. That leaves one unaccounted for .
> .
> >>     ‘Leo’ – I heard some
> years
> >>     ago that it was for sale
> (cheap) but have
> >> no idea
> >>   what
> >>     ultimately
> >> happened to
> >>     it. Maybe ask at
> >> Silvercrest? About all you will be
> >>   able
> >>    to
> >>     use from the P-boats
> >>
> >>     now is the personnel sphere
> – you’d
> >> probably be
> >>   better
> >>     off
> >> building one from
> >>     scratch if you want a
> >> thousand feet or less – after
> >>   the
> >>     first thou, the spheres
> >>
> >>    get much more expensive.
> >>
> >>
> >>     Reagards
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     From: mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Sent: Monday,
> >> January 05, 2015 4:43 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>     To: Personal
> >>     Submersibles General
> >>
> >> Discussion
> >>
> >>
> >>     Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    Ok. Thanks Vance. I will see what
> > turns up.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>     Scott Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Sent from my
> >> U.S.
> >>     Cellular®
> >>
> >> Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>     From: via
> >>
> >>     Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >>
> >>     Date:01/05/2015 6:34
> >>     PM (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >>     To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re:
> >>     [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     International Underwater
> >>     Contractors. When Andre
> Galern was alive,
> >> it was one
> >>   of
> >>    THE
> >>     deep diving
> >>
> >> construction companies in the world. No idea
> >>   what's
> >>     happened up
> >> there in the
> >>     last few years. Best to
> >> ask Dr. Phil that one, too.
> >>   He
> >>     knew/knows all those
> >>
> >> guys.
> >>
> >>     Vance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     -----Original
> >>
> >>     Message-----
> >>
> >>     From: swaters at waters-ks.com
> >>     via Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >>    <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>     To: Personal
> >> Submersibles General
> >>     Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>     Sent: Mon, Jan 5, 2015
> >>
> >>     6:37 pm
> >>
> >>     Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Vance,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Forgive me, but what is IUC in New York? I should
> >>     probably know this. Haha.
> >>
> >>    I figure it's worth at least trying.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Sent from my U.S.
> >>
> >> Cellular®
> >>     Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    -------- Original message --------
> >>
> >>
> >>     From: via
> >>
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >>
> >>    Date:01/05/2015 3:35 PM (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >>
> >>     To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Anything is possible,
> Scott.
> >>     SIlvercrest will skin you
> alive, given
> > half
> >> an
> >>    opportunity.
> >>     Or at
> >> least they'll
> >>     try. You have to be
> >> willing to wrangle with them. I
> >>
> >> don't think they'll respect
> >>
> >> anyone who doesn't. Maybe Phil has an extra one
> >>   laying
> >>     around. I've
> >> never asked.
> >>     You could do a lot worse,
> >> if the hulls are
> >>   salvageable.
> >>     There are four pressure
> >>
> >>    vessels (except on Leo). The
> personnel
> > sphere, an
> >>   aft
> >>     floatation sphere, and
> >> the
> >>     two 32" forward VBTs
> >> (that's what is under
> >>   the
> >>     fiberglas brow that makes
> the P
> >>     boats so distinctive. And
> the boats weigh
> >> from ten
> >>   to
> >>    twelve
> >>     tons, depending.
> >>     Just
> >> in case you want to check your air-ride flatbeds
> >>   for
> >>     load capability. The
> >>
> >>     P-VI was the most perfect
> hull Hyco
> >> ever did--it was
> >>     fabricated in Jacques
> >>
> >>     Piccard's shop in
> Switzerland under
> >> contract, and
> >>   was
> >>     lap
> >> finished, as I
> >>     understand it--both
> >> inside and out. Lovely thing,
> >>   P-VI. I
> >>     remember her well.
> >>
> >> Maybe it could be had, if IUC hasn't rolled it
> >>   out into
> >>     a dumpster. That
> >> might
> >>     be another question for our
> Dr.
> >> Phil, as I have zero
> >>     contacts up that
> >> way
> >>     anymore. Keep me in mind.
> I'll
> >> happily spin a
> >>   wrench for
> >>
> >>    you anytime on one of
> >>     those.
> >>
> >>     Vance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     -----Original
> >>     Message-----
> >>
> >>     From: swaters at waters-ks.com
> >>     via
> >>
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >>   <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>     To:
> >>
> >>    Personal Submersibles General
> > Discussion
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>     Sent:
> >>     Mon, Jan 5, 2015 4:25 pm
> >>
> >>
> >>     Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST]
> >> Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Excellent info
> >> Vance! Thank you so much. I was
> >>   hopeing
> >>     to locate one and
> >>
> >> maybe do a major overhaul / restoration on one
> rather
> >>   than
> >>     try to build a 1000m
> >>
> >>     boat from scratch. Any more
> pointers
> >> would be
> >>   awesome.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>     Scott Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Sent from my
> >> U.S.
> >>     Cellular®
> >>
> >> Smartphone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     -------- Original message
> >> --------
> >>
> >>     From: via
> >>
> >>     Personal_Submersibles
> >>
> >>
> >>     Date:01/05/2015 3:02 PM
> (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >>
> >>     To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     P-I Scrapped out by
> >>
> >>    Vickers
> >>
> >>     P-II
> >> Rumored
> >>     to be in a Miami storage
> unit
> >> (unconfirmed)
> >>
> >>
> >>     P-III ?
> >>
> >>
> >>     P-IV In Hawaii and
> >>     in service (but stony
> broke, I hear)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> P-V
> >>     Ditto
> >>
> >>     P-VI
> >>     IUC warehouse in
> >> New York, maybe parted
> >>     out
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> P-VII In a Russian
> >>     museum (Sevastopol, I
> >> think)
> >>
> >>
> >>     P-VIII
> >>     Nuytco
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> P-IX
> >>     Design
> >>     study
> >> for Intersub (4K
> >>     meters, never
> >> built)
> >>
> >>     P-X
> >> Nuytco
> >>
> >>
> >>     P-X11 Same as VII (flanking
> the front
> >>     doors, last I
> >>     saw)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Plus Leo, which
> >> was a big-window Pisces
> >>     style rated to
> >> 2000'
> >>     which, along with P-VI and
> >> Aquarius, are the only
> >>   Hyco
> >>    boats
> >>     that I qualified
> >> on
> >>     and operated (although the
> P-VI
> >> experience was not a
> >>   good
> >>
> >>    one for me or the
> >>     owners, either
> >> one). I did participate in a Pisces V
> >>
> >> overhaul in Houston, but
> >>     I'm not
> >> sure that counts except for the busted
> >>
> >> knuckles.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    I think the boys at Silvercrest might
> >>
> >> have one of the question
> >>     marks, but
> >> I'm not sure. Assuming they do, that
> >>
> >> leaves
> >>     one unaccounted for. I'm
> >>     betting Mr. Dr. Prof.
> Nuytten would know.
> >> As a side
> >>   note,
> >>    if
> >>     you look at the
> >>     Mirs,
> >> you will see where they sprang from. They are
> >>   Pisces
> >>     boats on steroids.
> >>
> >>     Those people worked at IUC
> for a couple
> >> of years and
> >>     operated P-VII and P-XII
> >>
> >>     for years after that, then
> took all
> >> those dandy
> >>   ideas,
> >>
> >> added
> >>     a pile of rubles,
> >>     and built a couple of big
> brawny kissing
> >> cousins. Mir
> >>   1
> >>     &
> >> Mir 2, by name.
> >>     The Pisces subs were
> >> pretty good for the day, but
> >>     maintenance
> >> heavy. And rest
> >>     assured, you
> >> haven't really lived until you have
> >>
> >> pulled
> >>     a Pisces battery box at
> >>     sea to change one cell.
> What a job!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Vance
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     -----Original
> >>
> >> Message-----
> >>
> >>     From:
> >> Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
> >>   <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>     To:
> >>
> >>    Personal Submersibles General
> > Discussion
> >>
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>     Sent:
> >>     Mon, Jan 5, 2015 3:02 pm
> >>
> >>
> >>     Subject: Re:
> [PSUBS-MAILIST]
> >> Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Scott,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hawaii
> >>     undersea research lab on
> Oahu has
> >> two
> >>     subs.
> >>
> >>
> >>     One I know
> >>     is a Pisces & I believe
> the
> >>     other is also.
> >>
> >>
> >>     I think
> >>     David Columbo has seen them
> in the
> >>     last year,
> >>
> >>
> >>     he might
> >>     confirm.
> >>
> >>
> >>     They told me they were
> >> losing
> >>     funding for operating them
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> as Govt considered rovs were
> >>     better
> >> value for money.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Alan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "swaters at waters-ks.com
> >>     via
> >>
> >> Personal_Submersibles"
> >>   <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>     To: psubs
> >>     <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Sent: Tuesday,
> >>
> >> January 6, 2015
> >>     7:27 AM
> >>
> >>     Subject:
> >>     [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Does
> >>     anyone know what happened
> to all
> >>     the Pisces submarines? I
> believe there
> > was
> >> 10 built,
> >>   but
> >>     only one
> >> or two that
> >>     are still in operation. I
> >> think NOAA has one.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>     Waters
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     Sent from my
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> >>     Cellular®
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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