[PSUBS-MAILIST] Alec's new sub
Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles
personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Wed Jan 7 08:20:14 EST 2015
Yep, gone. Years ago, you have a very good memory!
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 7:58 AM, James Frankland via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> Hi Alec,
> Sounds veeeery interesting! Looking forward to seeing some pics. Tempted
> to try and come over for the convention, I am overdue meeting everyone in
> person. I remember seeing some pics of "solo" ages ago. The aft section i
> think had 2 motors with a streamlined MBT\hull\motor cover with intakes
> that looked like shark gills. Best I can describe. Is that all gone now?
> Regards
> James
>
> On 7 January 2015 at 10:12, Alan James via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good Alec,
>> look forward to seeing it & the unveiling of
>> the mystery stern.... a bust of Obama?
>> Alan
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Pete Niedermayr via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 7, 2015 7:22 PM
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alec's new sub
>>
>> Alec, Is the CT bolted on ?
>>
>> Pete
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Tue, 1/6/15, Private via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Alec's new sub
>> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 9:34 PM
>>
>> At the convention if it happens here!
>> I'm thinking of a social event. I'll give you a few random
>> high level attributes...
>>
>> The main cylinder came from my old project sub "Solo",
>> shortened a little. It's good for 1000 feet but only for
>> skinny people at 31" OD.
>>
>> The CT is from PC-1402.
>>
>> The hatch is PC1402 design, but newly made by Emile.
>>
>> Four fixed MK-101s, jettisonable and oil compensated by a
>> new method, not the little wound-around hoses like Snoopy.
>>
>> Bow dome.
>>
>> Snoopy method of VBT floats but with way more of them.
>>
>> Every part other than the pressure hull proper is either 316
>> SS or plastic. Every last little bracket, including inside.
>> I hate rust.
>>
>> The stern... The stern... You will just have to wait for
>> that one. I suspect one and only one person will love
>> it. It's guaranteed to be different, I'll just say
>> that.
>>
>> The objective is for a 2 person boat that weighs less than
>> 4500 lbs and launches at very shallow boat ramps, but which
>> is practical in open water with 30" freeboard and an actual
>> deck. Air tanks and VBT floats are replaceable without
>> putting a diver in the water.
>>
>> The design philosophy is a search for radical simplicity. I
>> want to ship this one around the world to interesting
>> places, and cannot in those situations find myself lacking a
>> spare part or the sub would become a giant paperweight. Thus
>> the whole thing has very, very few parts, minimal
>> electronics, components as accessible as possible, etc.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alec
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 6, 2015, at 6:20 PM, hank pronk via
>> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Alec,
>> > When are you going to show us some pictures of your new
>> build. Perhaps even a teaser.
>> > Hank
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > On Tue, 1/6/15, Private via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
>> > To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> > Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 6:13 PM
>> >
>> > Hank,
>> >
>> > Ha, I think I know that GPR is actually "GRP". But
>> that's
>> > about the extent of it.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Alec
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Jan 6, 2015, at 4:45 PM, hank pronk via
>> > Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Alec,
>> >> I had concerns about the GPR hull, only because I
>> have
>> > no clue about GPR hulls. I though a new hull with
>> CT
>> > would be the ticket. The domes rest right on the
>> hull(
>> > over 2in thick GPR) It would be a
>> pretty
>> > simple hull to build. A 32in dia tube with some
>> > external rings and your away. I actually saw this
>> sub
>> > in Nelson BC Canada about 20 years ago. I drove 5 hr
>> one way
>> > to see it, they bought it to do log salvage. My
>> > brother and I were already salvaging the logs they
>> were
>> > after :-)
>> >> Hank-------------------------------------------
>> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, Alec Smyth via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
>> >> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion"
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >> Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 3:16 PM
>> >>
>> >> Scott,
>> >> this does not look like it could do any surface run
>> to
>> > speak
>> >> of. Methinks you'd need a real surface ship. When
>> you
>> >> and Hank come BACK from Tenerife I'll tag along!
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Alec
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 3:04
>> >> PM, swaters at waters-ks.com
>> >> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> Ok. Thanks
>> >> Hank.Scott
>> >> Waters
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my U.S.
>> >> Cellular® Smartphone
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original message
>> >> --------
>> >> From:
>> >> hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>> >> Date:01/06/2015 12:46 PM
>> >> (GMT-06:00)
>> >> To: Personal Submersibles
>> >> General Discussion
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Scott,
>> >> I lost the pics in a pc
>> >> problem You can contact Alan at
>> > Silvercrest, he was the
>> >> agent. If you want to go to Tenerife to see
>> it I
>> > will tag
>> >> along.
>> >> Hank--------------------------------------------
>> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, swaters at waters-ks.com
>> >> via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
>> >> To: "Personal
>> >> Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >> Received: Tuesday, January 6,
>> 2015, 1:36 PM
>> >>
>> >> That
>> >> might
>> >> be a possability! Do you have any pics of her? My
>> goal
>> >> is 1000 meters or deeper, but
>> depends on what
>> >> options come
>> >> up.Thanks,Scott Waters
>> >>
>> >> Sent
>> >> from
>> >> my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original message
>> --------
>> >> From: hank pronk via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> >>
>> >> Date:01/06/2015 12:25
>> PM (GMT-06:00)
>> >>
>> >> To: Personal Submersibles General
>> >> Discussion
>> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST]
>> >> Leo
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Scott,
>> >> I don't know how deep you want
>> >> to go and how much effort
>> >> you want to put
>> >> in,,,,,but there is the Wrangler sub in
>> >>
>> >> Tenerife Spain. The Wrangler is GPR with two
>> > 34in
>> >> domes, one at each end. One
>> end opens as
>> >> the
>> >> hatch. My idea was to
>> replace the
>> >> hull with 516-70
>> >> steel with a CT. It had
>> >> a deal worked out at 50K
>> >> landed in
>> >> Vancouver. I think she can do 2,000 feet.
>> >>
>> >> Hank
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, hank pronk via
>> >> Personal_Submersibles
>> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
>> >> To: "Personal
>> >> Submersibles General Discussion"
>> >>
>> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >> Received: Tuesday, January 6, 2015,
>> > 1:12
>> >> PM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Scott,
>> >> Did he say where
>> >> and how deep?
>> >>
>> >> Hank--------------------------------------------
>> >> On Tue, 1/6/15, swaters at waters-ks.com
>> >> via Personal_Submersibles
>> >>
>> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Leo
>> >> To:
>> >> "Personal Submersibles General
>> >>
>> >> Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >> Received: Tuesday, January
>> 6, 2015, 10:57
>> >> AM
>> >>
>> >> An
>> >> update on Leo. Silvercrest
>> claims she was
>> >> sunk in
>> >> deep
>> >> water
>> >> after a insurance claim
>> some time
>> >> ago. Thanks,Scott
>> >>
>> >> Waters
>> >> Sent
>> >> from my
>> >> U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original message
>> --------
>> >> From: via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> >> Date:01/06/2015 8:02
>> AM
>> > (GMT-06:00)
>> >> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
>> >>
>> >> It would surely be nice to
>> find
>> >> Leo. I'd go into hock again
>> for that
>> >> one, just
>> >> for old
>> >>
>> >> time's sake. That notwithstanding, I'm
>> >> virtually
>> >> certain that
>> >> those particular hull(s) were built of
>> >>
>> >> A516Gr70, like most of the boats of the day (and
>> most
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >>
>> >> boats out of Nuytco currently, or at least the
>> ones
>> >> without
>> >> cyrillic
>> >> operating manuals).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I don't remember how thick the steel
>> >>
>> >> was, but it was definitely made from
>> > standard stuff.
>> >> Plus,
>> >> the main viewport
>> >> was 4 FEET in diameter!!! Diving
>> >> that
>> >> thing was seriously
>> awesome. She had
>> > plenty
>> >> of room
>> >> for
>> >> two
>> >> (or enough for three good
>> friends) and
>> > that
>> >> huge
>> >> picture
>> >> window in
>> >> the front.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If Hyco had survived (Leo
>> was their
>> >> last
>> >> P-style boat) I'm betting
>> there
>> >> would be more of
>> >> them
>> >>
>> >> out there. It was a serious attempt at Perry's
>> >> stranglehold on the shallow
>> water market
>> >> (shallow by
>> >> comparison) and I think it
>> >> was a really good try.
>> >> Sadly,
>> >> it
>> >> all fell apart before
>> >> we could really show her
>> >> off.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We did all the deepwater pilot
>> > training
>> >>
>> >> in her down on the Flower Gardens,
>> and
>> > had a ball.
>> >> These
>> >> days, she'd be
>> >> even better, because the
>> >> subsystems and
>> >> propulsion gear is so much
>> better. That
>> > sub
>> >> was rated
>> >> for
>> >> 2000
>> >> feet, which ain't bad. How about that
>> >>
>> >> for an option,
>> >> Scott?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No fancy steel. Huge
>> >> viewport. 600
>> >> meters. What could be better? A 6 1/2
>> >>
>> >> foot
>> >> sphere displaces less than
>> 6-tons.
>> >> Add a pair of
>> >> uncle
>> >>
>> >> Phil's aluminum pods in back with a block of foam
>> >> to
>> >> support them. Fair the
>> >> thing like a fat tadpole. You
>> >> could
>> >> probably hold it down to 7,
>> maybe 7 1/2
>> >> tons.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Leo weighs 10. Most of the
>> P-boats
>> >> weigh
>> >> that, and a good bit more.
>> Yours
>> >> would be a
>> >> lightweight
>> >>
>> >> compared to them, a whole lot cheaper to build,
>> more
>> >> agile,
>> >> easier to
>> >> maintain..... The list goes on. What could
>> >>
>> >> be
>> >> better? Damn, I want one!!!
>> It would
>> >> be perfect for
>> >> my
>> >>
>> >> neck
>> >> of the woods.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Vance
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>
>> >> From: swaters at waters-ks.com
>> >> via Personal_Submersibles
>> >>
>> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >>
>> >> To: Personal
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>> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >>
>> >> Sent: Tue, Jan 6, 2015
>> >> 7:49 am
>> >>
>> >> Subject:
>> >> Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the info
>> >> Phil. I keep running into the
>> >> same
>> >> problems of the material
>> and building of
>> >> the
>> >> personel
>> >> sphere.
>> >>
>> >> Scott Waters
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my U.S.
>> >> Cellular®
>> >> Smartphone
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -------- Original message --------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Phil Nuytten via
>> >> Personal_Submersibles
>> >>
>> >> Date:01/05/2015 8:44
>> PM
>> > (GMT-06:00)
>> >>
>> >> To: Personal
>> >> Submersibles General Discussion
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hi, Guys, and Happy
>> >> New Year to all loyal
>> >> subbers!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Glad to shed some little
>> light on the
>> >> Pisces
>> >> subs
>> >> . .We
>> >> (Nuytco) have
>> >> four Hyco boats –
>> >> 2/8/10 and Aquarius, P-4 and P-5
>> >> are
>> >> in
>> >> Hawaii at HURL
>> >> (Hawaii
>> >> Underwater Research Lab)
>> –
>> >> they are out of
>> >> service,
>> >>
>> >> currently and may be sold
>> >> off if no
>> >> funding is forthcoming. I hope not,
>> >>
>> >> because
>> >> Terry
>> >> Kerby
>> >> and his crew
>> >> rebuilt them into the
>> >> cream of the Pisces crop! There
>> >> are
>> >> two Pisces boats in
>> >>
>> >> Russia, one operational and one in a museum (or,
>> >> actually
>> >> ,
>> >>
>> >> outside a museum).
>> >> Pisces –1, is
>> >> in the UK, last seen, it was in
>> >> parts.
>> >> Likewise, P-6
>> >> is in
>> >> parts (the stern sphere was lost in the sinking
>> >> of
>> >> IUC’s vessel
>> >> ‘Aloha’)
>> >> and what’s left is in
>> >> New York as Vance mentions. I
>> >> cut
>> >> a
>> >> deal with my old
>> >> friend Andre Galerne
>> (before his
>> >> untimely
>> >> death) to
>> >> have
>> >> first dibs on
>> >> buying P-6 to go into the
>> >> ‘working sub’
>> >> Hyco/Pisces
>> >> display section at our
>> >>
>> >> long-awaited ‘Deep Discovery Centre’ diving
>> >> technology
>> >> museum. His
>> >> sons, Lionel
>> >> and Eric were kind enough
>> >> to honour Andre’s
>> >> wishes
>> >> and we will arrange
>> >>
>> >> shipment to the west coast when the weather gets
>> >> better.
>> >> Would appreciate
>> >> it if
>> >> you would steer clear of
>> this one
>> >> – we do plan to
>> >> rebuild
>> >> to the same condition
>> >>
>> >> as P-4 and P-5. That leaves one unaccounted for .
>> .
>> >> ‘Leo’ – I heard some
>> years
>> >> ago that it was for sale
>> (cheap) but have
>> >> no idea
>> >> what
>> >> ultimately
>> >> happened to
>> >> it. Maybe ask at
>> >> Silvercrest? About all you will be
>> >> able
>> >> to
>> >> use from the P-boats
>> >>
>> >> now is the personnel sphere
>> – you’d
>> >> probably be
>> >> better
>> >> off
>> >> building one from
>> >> scratch if you want a
>> >> thousand feet or less – after
>> >> the
>> >> first thou, the spheres
>> >>
>> >> get much more expensive.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Reagards
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Phil
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: mailto:personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent: Monday,
>> >> January 05, 2015 4:43 PM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> To: Personal
>> >> Submersibles General
>> >>
>> >> Discussion
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ok. Thanks Vance. I will see what
>> > turns up.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Scott Waters
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my
>> >> U.S.
>> >> Cellular®
>> >>
>> >> Smartphone
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> Date:01/05/2015 6:34
>> >> PM (GMT-06:00)
>> >>
>> >> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> International Underwater
>> >> Contractors. When Andre
>> Galern was alive,
>> >> it was one
>> >> of
>> >> THE
>> >> deep diving
>> >>
>> >> construction companies in the world. No idea
>> >> what's
>> >> happened up
>> >> there in the
>> >> last few years. Best to
>> >> ask Dr. Phil that one, too.
>> >> He
>> >> knew/knows all those
>> >>
>> >> guys.
>> >>
>> >> Vance
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> via Personal_Submersibles
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>> >> Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >>
>> >> Sent: Mon, Jan 5, 2015
>> >>
>> >> 6:37 pm
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Vance,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Forgive me, but what is IUC in New York? I should
>> >> probably know this. Haha.
>> >>
>> >> I figure it's worth at least trying.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Scott Waters
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my U.S.
>> >>
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>> >> Date:01/05/2015 3:35 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> To: personal_submersibles at psubs.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Anything is possible,
>> Scott.
>> >> SIlvercrest will skin you
>> alive, given
>> > half
>> >> an
>> >> opportunity.
>> >> Or at
>> >> least they'll
>> >> try. You have to be
>> >> willing to wrangle with them. I
>> >>
>> >> don't think they'll respect
>> >>
>> >> anyone who doesn't. Maybe Phil has an extra one
>> >> laying
>> >> around. I've
>> >> never asked.
>> >> You could do a lot worse,
>> >> if the hulls are
>> >> salvageable.
>> >> There are four pressure
>> >>
>> >> vessels (except on Leo). The
>> personnel
>> > sphere, an
>> >> aft
>> >> floatation sphere, and
>> >> the
>> >> two 32" forward VBTs
>> >> (that's what is under
>> >> the
>> >> fiberglas brow that makes
>> the P
>> >> boats so distinctive. And
>> the boats weigh
>> >> from ten
>> >> to
>> >> twelve
>> >> tons, depending.
>> >> Just
>> >> in case you want to check your air-ride flatbeds
>> >> for
>> >> load capability. The
>> >>
>> >> P-VI was the most perfect
>> hull Hyco
>> >> ever did--it was
>> >> fabricated in Jacques
>> >>
>> >> Piccard's shop in
>> Switzerland under
>> >> contract, and
>> >> was
>> >> lap
>> >> finished, as I
>> >> understand it--both
>> >> inside and out. Lovely thing,
>> >> P-VI. I
>> >> remember her well.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe it could be had, if IUC hasn't rolled it
>> >> out into
>> >> a dumpster. That
>> >> might
>> >> be another question for our
>> Dr.
>> >> Phil, as I have zero
>> >> contacts up that
>> >> way
>> >> anymore. Keep me in mind.
>> I'll
>> >> happily spin a
>> >> wrench for
>> >>
>> >> you anytime on one of
>> >> those.
>> >>
>> >> Vance
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> via
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>> >>
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>> >> Sent:
>> >> Mon, Jan 5, 2015 4:25 pm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST]
>> >> Pisces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Excellent info
>> >> Vance! Thank you so much. I was
>> >> hopeing
>> >> to locate one and
>> >>
>> >> maybe do a major overhaul / restoration on one
>> rather
>> >> than
>> >> try to build a 1000m
>> >>
>> >> boat from scratch. Any more
>> pointers
>> >> would be
>> >> awesome.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Scott Waters
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my
>> >> U.S.
>> >> Cellular®
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>> >> Smartphone
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> P-I Scrapped out by
>> >>
>> >> Vickers
>> >>
>> >> P-II
>> >> Rumored
>> >> to be in a Miami storage
>> unit
>> >> (unconfirmed)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> P-III ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> P-IV In Hawaii and
>> >> in service (but stony
>> broke, I hear)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> P-V
>> >> Ditto
>> >>
>> >> P-VI
>> >> IUC warehouse in
>> >> New York, maybe parted
>> >> out
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> P-VII In a Russian
>> >> museum (Sevastopol, I
>> >> think)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> P-VIII
>> >> Nuytco
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> P-IX
>> >> Design
>> >> study
>> >> for Intersub (4K
>> >> meters, never
>> >> built)
>> >>
>> >> P-X
>> >> Nuytco
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> P-X11 Same as VII (flanking
>> the front
>> >> doors, last I
>> >> saw)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Plus Leo, which
>> >> was a big-window Pisces
>> >> style rated to
>> >> 2000'
>> >> which, along with P-VI and
>> >> Aquarius, are the only
>> >> Hyco
>> >> boats
>> >> that I qualified
>> >> on
>> >> and operated (although the
>> P-VI
>> >> experience was not a
>> >> good
>> >>
>> >> one for me or the
>> >> owners, either
>> >> one). I did participate in a Pisces V
>> >>
>> >> overhaul in Houston, but
>> >> I'm not
>> >> sure that counts except for the busted
>> >>
>> >> knuckles.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I think the boys at Silvercrest might
>> >>
>> >> have one of the question
>> >> marks, but
>> >> I'm not sure. Assuming they do, that
>> >>
>> >> leaves
>> >> one unaccounted for. I'm
>> >> betting Mr. Dr. Prof.
>> Nuytten would know.
>> >> As a side
>> >> note,
>> >> if
>> >> you look at the
>> >> Mirs,
>> >> you will see where they sprang from. They are
>> >> Pisces
>> >> boats on steroids.
>> >>
>> >> Those people worked at IUC
>> for a couple
>> >> of years and
>> >> operated P-VII and P-XII
>> >>
>> >> for years after that, then
>> took all
>> >> those dandy
>> >> ideas,
>> >>
>> >> added
>> >> a pile of rubles,
>> >> and built a couple of big
>> brawny kissing
>> >> cousins. Mir
>> >> 1
>> >> &
>> >> Mir 2, by name.
>> >> The Pisces subs were
>> >> pretty good for the day, but
>> >> maintenance
>> >> heavy. And rest
>> >> assured, you
>> >> haven't really lived until you have
>> >>
>> >> pulled
>> >> a Pisces battery box at
>> >> sea to change one cell.
>> What a job!!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Vance
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original
>> >>
>> >> Message-----
>> >>
>> >> From:
>> >> Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
>> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >>
>> >> To:
>> >>
>> >> Personal Submersibles General
>> > Discussion
>> >>
>> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >>
>> >> Sent:
>> >> Mon, Jan 5, 2015 3:02 pm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Subject: Re:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST]
>> >> Pisces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Scott,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Hawaii
>> >> undersea research lab on
>> Oahu has
>> >> two
>> >> subs.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> One I know
>> >> is a Pisces & I believe
>> the
>> >> other is also.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I think
>> >> David Columbo has seen them
>> in the
>> >> last year,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> he might
>> >> confirm.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> They told me they were
>> >> losing
>> >> funding for operating them
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> as Govt considered rovs were
>> >> better
>> >> value for money.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Alan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: "swaters at waters-ks.com
>> >> via
>> >>
>> >> Personal_Submersibles"
>> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >>
>> >> To: psubs
>> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday,
>> >>
>> >> January 6, 2015
>> >> 7:27 AM
>> >>
>> >> Subject:
>> >> [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pisces
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Does
>> >> anyone know what happened
>> to all
>> >> the Pisces submarines? I
>> believe there
>> > was
>> >> 10 built,
>> >> but
>> >> only one
>> >> or two that
>> >> are still in operation. I
>> >> think NOAA has one.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Scott
>> >> Waters
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
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