[PSUBS-MAILIST] annealing windows

Sat Nov 28 03:54:28 EST 2015

Brian,

Yes we use a leftover from the same thickness with a 4 mm hole drilled from
the side.

I am experienced with dome windows.  I support them on a flat Alu plate .
the lower temperature  (80 deg. C. ) makes it easier.

Somone else experienced with supporting flat windows?

Emile

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Hi Emile,

                   Do you guys use a block of acrylic to simulate the inside
temperature of the other windows that are being annealed?

Also, how do you place your disks in the oven?  horizontal or vertical?   

Brian

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Te centre of the acrylic will reach the same temp as the air. 

Buto it will take some 2 hours for 40 mm plate!

Regards, Emile 

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Verzonden: zondag 22 november 2015 17:23
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Brian, just wanted to make sure that the thermocouple in the acrylic sample
is only for monitoring the heat soak, and is not the one you are using to
control the oven temperature? Obviously, the centre of the acrylic is going
to be cooler than the oven air.

What is the arrangement of heating elements? Are there fans to circulate the
air in the oven to homogenize it? If so, you might look at diffusing that
airflow. You only need enough to prevent temperature gradients in the oven.
You might have a hot spot across from a fan?

Sean

On November 21, 2015 9:27:47 PM MST, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
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Alec,   yes, correct, the window with the hole for the probe is just to
monitor the temp.  I wonder if any of those psubers across the pond would
have any experience with something like this. 

Brian C.

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2015 23:00:28 -0500 

Brian, just to make sure I understand... I presume the window with the hole
was a "placebo" you threw in the oven along with the actual windows, to
monitor temperature rise? Else, if you drilled a partial hole into one of
the actual windows unfortunately my reaction would be a very big UH-OH!!!
That would be a stre! ss concentrator in a spot where you really do not want
one. 

Best, 

Alec 

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:32 PM, Brian Cox via Personal_Submersibles
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Had a weird observation while annealing my windows,  I have one window that
I drilled a 1/8' deep hole for a temperature probe so I can monitor the rise
of the acrylic.  After the annealing, the one window with the probe, it's
surface was badly melted.   The rest of the windows were perfectly fine.
The only difference was that the! window with the probe has gone through
multiple annealing cycles. It was also sitting on another piece of thick
acrylic, but I don't think that would have anything to do with it's surface
being melted. 

Brian Cox 

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