[PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
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Thank s Cliff. I got a lot to learn when it come to controllers. You never stop learning with submarines
Thanks,
Scott
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
> Sent: May 19 '16 14:37
>
> Scott do a search on ebay MINN KOTA TRAXXIS TROLLING MOTOR MAIN
> CONTROL BOARD PN# 2184017 OR 2184027 . These are for sell every day.
>
> Rocker switch is normally used when you are using a reversing
> contactor to change the polarity to the DC motor. If you are going to
> use a motor controller like shown above, then you would only use the
> potentiometer on each controller or a joy stick replacing the pot for
> a PLC interfacing between the joystick and motor controller to change
> direction. May you could the switch for some other function on the
> boat.
>
> Cliff
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Scott Waters via
> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
> > Do you have a link to where to buy them? Can I still use my rocker
> > switch that I am currnetly using (forward/reverse).
> > Thanks,
> > Scott Waters
> >
> > Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Cliff Redus via Personal_Submersibles
> > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > Date: 05/19/2016 9:59 AM (GMT-06:00)
> > To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
> >
> > Scott. I would try one of the MC 101 motor controllers for each
> > vertical thruster. They should work well for this application. The
> > motor controller has a soft start which should solve the fuse
> > blowing. You don't need a reversing contactor with these
> > controllers. When the pot is near the center of its taper (2.5vdc)
> > the motor to the thruster (10AWG) are also connected with 1/4" spade
> > connectors.
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 7:53 AM, via Personal_Submersibles
> > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Alec,
> >>
> >> I am pretty sure that is correct. The side thrusters are 14.5 amp
> >> 36V and I believe 1/3 horse and the rear thruster is 74 amp 36
> >> volt and 3 horse. I may have to take them apart to look at the
> >> plates on them again. The problem I am having is the spike from
> >> on/off in either forward or reverse frequently pops the fuse. Is a
> >> motor controller the best way to fix this or is there a better way
> >> such as a capacitor? DC electrical motors and engineering are my
> >> two weak subjects in submarines.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Scott Waters
> >>
> >>> -------Original Message-------
> >>> From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
> >>> Sent: May 18 '16 20:35
> >>>
> >>> Scott are you sure those motors only pull 15 amps? It seems
> >> very
> >>> little for a stonking big piece of hardware like that, but
> >> maybe the
> >>> motor inside the can is smaller that one would expect.
> >> Consider the
> >>> 101's also run at 36 volts but pull three times the current.
> >> Anyway if
> >>> the current draw is correct you would have no problem running
> >> them off
> >>> the standard MK controller. You could even run both of them
> >> off a
> >>> single controller, although you would need some switches or
> >> relays to
> >>> reverse them independently. But the MK controllers are cheap,
> >> so maybe
> >>> just provide each thruster its own speed control.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Alec
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Alan James via
> >> Personal_Submersibles
> >>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Scott,
> >>>> thinking more about it. That Kelly controller requires a
> >> separate
> >>>> reverse contactor & reverse switch.
> >>>> (they sell them)
> >>>> Also you need to buy their connectors to connect to the
> >> computer to
> >>>> program it. The wiring diagram
> >>>> is for a key start, which is a solenoid switch, so you have
> >> to work
> >>>> out how to wire it differently if
> >>>> you don't want a key start.
> >>>> You sound like you are within the parameters of a MK 101
> >> motor
> >>>> controller. I am not familiar
> >>>> with it but Cliff & Alec are. I believe you can just plug in
> >> the
> >>>> right joystick with spring to centre
> >>>> & get forward & backward on that same axis. The MK sounds
> >> like it
> >>>> would be a lot simpler to set up.
> >>>> Alan
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------
> >>>> FROM: Scott Waters via Personal_Submersibles
> >>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>> TO: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> >>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>> SENT: Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:08 AM
> >>>>
> >>>> SUBJECT: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
> >>>>
> >>>> No, they are Kitteredge originals
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Scott Waters
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Smartphone
> >>>>
> >>>> -------- Original message --------
> >>>> From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
> >>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>> Date: 05/18/2016 3:53 PM (GMT-06:00)
> >>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> >>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
> >>>>
> >>>> Scott,
> >>>> are they Minn kota motors?
> >>>> Alan
> >>>>
> >>>> -------------------------
> >>>> FROM: via Personal_Submersibles
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>> TO: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> >>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>> SENT: Thursday, May 19, 2016 8:29 AM
> >>>> SUBJECT: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks Alan
> >>>>
> >>>> -Scott Waters
> >>>>
> >>>>> -------Original Message-------
> >>>>> From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
> >>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> >>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
> >>>>> Sent: May 18 '16 13:45
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scott,
> >>>>> I would say something like this item.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> http://kellycontroller.com/kds36100e100a24v-36v-mini-brushed-controller-p-270.html
> >>>>> Kelly will give you advice on choosing a suitable
> >> controller &
> >>>> they
> >>>>> normally respond the
> >>>>> same day. They say the controller should be 2-3 x the power
> >> of
> >>>> the
> >>>>> motor.
> >>>>> When I bought my Brushless motor controller I found I
> >> couldn't
> >>>>> reverse off a joy stick.
> >>>>> They had a joystick port but just for forward control. I
> >> was
> >>>> required
> >>>>> to pay more to get the same
> >>>>> unit programmed to do this. It is a bit ambiguous how they
> >> word
> >>>> this
> >>>>> option in the manual.
> >>>>> I saw those Pisces subs on Oahu a couple of years back as
> >> has
> >>>> David
> >>>>> C. They were having
> >>>>> funding problems at the time. There are normally turtles in
> >> the
> >>>> water
> >>>>> by the wharf & a hole off
> >>>>> to the left that has some resident reef sharks. The guys
> >> will
> >>>> point it
> >>>>> out.
> >>>>> Cheers Alan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -------------------------
> >>>>> FROM: via Personal_Submersibles
> >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>>> TO: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> >>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>>> SENT: Thursday, May 19, 2016 5:42 AM
> >>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am looking for a motor controller for my two side
> >> thrusters. I
> >>>>> currently have it on a off/on switch and it blows fuses
> >> from the
> >>>>> spike. I have a variable controller for my rear thruster
> >> that
> >>>> works
> >>>>> well. The motors are 14.5 amp each and are 36 volt.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>> Scott Waters
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -------Original Message-------
> >>>>>> From: Alan James via Personal_Submersibles
> >>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>>>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
> >>>>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> >>>>>> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Kelly controllers
> >>>>>> Sent: Apr 29 '16 15:34
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alec,
> >>>>>> one thing that wasn't obvious with my KBS mini controller
> >>>> purchase
> >>>>>> was that if you want to run forward / reverse off one axis
> >> of a
> >>>>>> joystick,
> >>>>>> you have to specify this option. It costs you an extra
> >> $26- &
> >>>> is a
> >>>>>> software change they make. They call this an electric boat
> >>>> function.
> >>>>>> Alan
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