[PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!

Fri Aug 25 12:04:18 EDT 2017

Dan Lance
Can you contact me off list?
"Satwelder at gmail.com"
Thanks
Rick

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 8:53 AM David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Thanks Scott.
>
> Best Regards,
> David Colombo
>
> 804 College Ave
> Santa Rosa, CA. 95404
> (707) 536-1424
> www.SeaQuestor.com
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:35 AM, via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> I talked with KISS rebreather and they are going to set up a coupon code
>> to get the special pricing. He will get back with me on it here soon. The
>> offer will only be good for about a month or so, then the pricing will be
>> retail. The delivery time looks like 6 weeks. He is getting me dimensions
>> and I will post them on the psubs forum soon.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Scott Waters
>>
>> >  -------Original Message-------
>> >  From: David Colombo via Personal_Submersibles <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
>> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!
>> >  Sent: Aug 24 '17 14:16
>> >
>> >  Hi Scott,
>> >  Are you taking orders or deposits for the unit. Any ideas as to the
>> >  delivery schedule of the units? Any dimensions and or pictures would
>> >  help for placement in the SeaQuestor would be helpful.
>> >
>> >  Best Regards,
>> >  David Colombo
>> >
>> >  804 College Ave
>> >  Santa Rosa, CA. 95404
>> >  (707) 536-1424
>> >  www.SeaQuestor.com
>> >
>> >  On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:24 AM, via Personal_Submersibles
>> >  <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >  > Hank,
>> >  >
>> >  > I completely understand being so into the project a lot of "what
>> >  > if" scenarios are never considered. That is one of the reasons, of
>> >  > the 14 people that work on Pisces VI, one of them does nothing but
>> >  > safety and writing the operations manual. The Pisces VI used a EBA
>> >  > built by Drager called the Oxy-SR 30M. It is basically the same
>> >  > thing KISS and Pisces developed except it only lasted 30 minutes,
>> >  > did not have the ability to hook up comms, and costs more.
>> >  >
>> >  > The Pisces VI has a lot more safety devices built into her, most of
>> >  > which are over kill for a Psub, but this is an area where I see most
>> >  > of the psubs lacking (including my own KW350 "Trustworthy").
>> >  >
>> >  > Thank you,
>> >  > Scott Waters
>> >  >
>> >  >> -------Original Message-------
>> >  >> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
>> >  > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> >  > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!
>> >  >
>> >  >> Sent: Aug 24 '17 05:40
>> >  >>
>> >  >> Scott,
>> >  >> I have to admit that I have not put so much thought into that
>> >  >> scenario. I think because I (we) spend so much time and effort
>> >  >> installing wiring with fuses and breakers that I have a false
>> >  > sense of
>> >  >> security where short circuits are concerned. I am glad you
>> >  > brought it
>> >  >> up and I am sure in the future you will be pointing out more
>> >  > risk
>> >  >> assessments. We are lucky to have you with us.
>> >  >> What did Pisces VI have originally?
>> >  >> Hank
>> >  >>
>> >  >> On Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 11:22:46 PM MDT, via
>> >  >> Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>> >  >>
>> >  >> I guess I should mention some other reasons why this unit is
>> >  > worth it
>> >  >> *It has a 3hr breath time
>> >  >> *It can be hooked up to u/w comms to keep communications with
>> >  > the
>> >  >> surface while still breathing safe air
>> >  >> *It is compact (unlike the BioMarine units that a lot of
>> >  > submarines
>> >  >> use for their EBAs)
>> >  >> *Fully enclosed mask which makes donning way faster than a reg
>> >  > and
>> >  >> mask that most BIBS use
>> >  >> *All parts are professionally built to the KISS standard. (If
>> >  > you have
>> >  >> ever dove a KISS rebreather you will know what I mean
>> >  >>
>> >  >> Probably one of the most important things I learned at my month
>> >  > at sea
>> >  >> with Woods Hole and the DSV Alvin is the importance of actually
>> >  >> running realistic drills of emergency situations. This was made
>> >  >> bluntly obvious to me when we really started talking about it.
>> >  > For
>> >  >> example has anyone on psubs actually done a smoke in cabin drill
>> >  > from
>> >  >> operational depth? I think if you do you will be shocked. Trying
>> >  > to
>> >  >> don a BIBS and mask, ensure passengers get their BIBS and mask
>> >  > donned,
>> >  >> locate the issue, isolate the issue, get the submarine on it's
>> >  > way up,
>> >  >> communicate with the surface, on the way up (which is probably
>> >  > at a
>> >  >> full blow), slow the accent, vent the cabin from the BIBS at a
>> >  > slow
>> >  >> rate so you don't blow a viewport or blow the hatch dogs and
>> >  > flood the
>> >  >> submarine at 10 to 30 feet likely drowning everyone. Now that
>> >  > you have
>> >  >> done this with a drill add the stress level and I think you will
>> >  > see
>> >  >> why it is unacceptable. I know there was a comment on a hour of
>> >  > BIBS
>> >  >> usage only brought up the p!
>> >  >> ressure about 15psi. I would challenge you to do the calcs to
>> >  > see at
>> >  >> what pressure a viewport or the hatch fails from internal
>> >  > pressure. I
>> >  >> think again you will be shocked.
>> >  >>
>> >  >> I have learned a lot in my career with submarines and I know
>> >  > psubs is
>> >  >> committed to safety above all other and I would love to help
>> >  > make it
>> >  >> safer. This is the reason why I am pushing this so hard and
>> >  > sharing
>> >  >> the discount. If you take nothing else from this e-mail, then I
>> >  > urge
>> >  >> everyone to actually run their emergency plans under controlled
>> >  >> circumstances then evaluate afterwards and ask, "with the stress
>> >  > level
>> >  >> of a real situation, is this a good plan?".
>> >  >>
>> >  >> Thank you,
>> >  >> Scott Waters
>> >  >>
>> >  >> > -------Original Message-------
>> >  >> > From: Alan via Personal_Submersibles
>> >  >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >> > To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> >  >> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >  >> > Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] EBA!!!
>> >  >> > Sent: Aug 23 '17 22:43
>> >  >> >
>> >  >> > Brian,
>> >  >> > I am not an expert on rebreathers but
>> >  >> > in a submarine, could you have a lung with full face mask & 3
>> >  > hoses
>> >  >> > attached to it. One hose pushes on to the submarines O2
>> >  > outlet,
>> >  >> > & the other 2 to your CO2 scrubber inlet & outlet. Manually
>> >  > control
>> >  >> > the volume of the lung or set up some sort of bellows add
>> >  > system!
>> >  >> > In a 1 ton volume submarine you would have over an hour of
>> >  >> breathing
>> >  >> > off a standard regulator & air before you doubled the
>> >  > pressure
>> >  >> inside
>> >  >> > the sub anyway.
>> >  >> > I am installing ptfe insulated wiring on the inside of my sub
>> >  > to
>> >  >> avoid
>> >  >> > any
>> >  >> > fires with that, but you can't guarantee what's in all the
>> >  >> electronics
>> >  >> > you
>> >  >> > put in your sub!
>> >  >> > Alan
>> >  >> >
>> >  >> > Sent from my iPad
>> >  >> >
>> >  >> > On 24/08/2017, at 3:11 PM, Brian Hughes via
>> >  > Personal_Submersibles
>> >  >> > <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>> >  >> >
>> >  >> > > My friend Tom Rose's $100.00 USD rebreather. Unfortunately,
>> >  > a few
>> >  >> > > years ago he died of a heart attack. Tom was a character.
>> >  >> > >
>> >  >> > > I've been contemplating making something similar out of a
>> >  > piece
>> >  >> of
>> >  >> > > acrylic pipe, like an old style canister light battery
>> >  > holder,
>> >  >> and
>> >  >> > > an MSA mask. Add a stub for O2 addition. Before I got into
>> >  > this
>> >  >> > > psubs hobby I use to build DIY mixed gas rebreathers.
>> >  >> > >
>> >  >> > >
>> >  >> >
>> >  >>
>> >  >
>> >
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20080420110800/http://www.atlimp.com/pend2.htm
>> >  >> > >
>> >  >> > > Get Outlook for Android
>> >  >> >
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