[PSUBS-MAILIST] Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 49, Issue 110

Sat Jul 22 13:26:59 EDT 2017

I'll be there for diving support. Mike Patterson 

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Date: 7/22/17  12:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
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   1. Re: PSUBS in Islamorada FL (Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles)
   2. Re: Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 49, Issue 109
      (peaceroom via Personal_Submersibles)

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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 12:38:35 -0400
From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] PSUBS in Islamorada FL
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Hi Tim,

There's been lots of planning, but offline among those who expressed an
interest in attending. To summarize, the dive dates are August 1-3. Snoopy
is at the Suhr's but probably will not be diving. Shackleton has an issue
that I will be trying to resolve doing canal tests, making use of the calm
water, davits, and brain trust on hand. I suspect the issue is that some
tanks are flooding faster than others. She takes a nose dive on submerging.
I'm not sure the issue will be resolved, but the test location and friends
on hand make it worth the trip. R300 will be there and is all systems go,
but Cliff's challenge will most likely be habitability given the
temperatures, so he'll try to do tows and transits submerged just to keep
the cabin conditions manageable.

If anyone else is interested in joining us, now would be the perfect time
to speak up.

Best,

Alec

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:13 AM, T Novak via Personal_Submersibles <
personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

> Are there any more details available for the PSUBS convention plans for
> Islamorada in August?  Not that I can make it to the Florida Keys this
> time, but I haven't noticed any discussion of late.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> *From:* Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-
> bounces at psubs.org] *On Behalf Of *MerlinSub at t-online.de via
> Personal_Submersibles
> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 7:44 AM
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
>
>
>
> Yes thats correct.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> -----Original-Nachricht-----
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> Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
>
> Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200
>
> Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>
> An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
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>
>
>
>
>
> Hello Carsten,
>
>
>
> Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal
> submarines in the United States?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Greg C
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *To:* Personal Submersibles General Discussion <
> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
>
>
>
>
> I agree.  Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher?
> The current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater
> vessels and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make
> some sense out of it all.
>
>
> On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles
> wrote:
>
> Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient.
>
>
>
> Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright
> will kill all occupants instandly.
>
>
>
> Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble scooters
> for untrained non diver tourist.
>
> We decide not to follow this invitaion. Somebody else will maybe do.
>
>
>
> Carsten
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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 12:39:32 -0400
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Still on for Tuesday plus 1 week. Check with Doug Suhr. Mike?

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?? 2. PSUBS in Islamorada FL (T Novak via Personal_Submersibles)

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 16:44:11 +0200 (MEST)
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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
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Yes thats correct.

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Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules
Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200
Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

Hello Carsten,

Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal submarines 
in the United States?

Thanks,

Greg C

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From: Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion 
<personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules

I agree.? Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher?? The 
current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater vessels 
and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make some sense 
out of it all.

On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de <mailto:MerlinSub at t-online.de> 
via Personal_Submersibles wrote:

??? Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient.
???? 
??? Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright
??? will kill all occupants instandly.
???? 
??? Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble
??? scooters for untrained non diver tourist.
??? We decide not to follow this invitaion. Somebody else will maybe do.
???? 
??? Carsten
???? 

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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 08:13:19 -0700
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Are there any more details available for the PSUBS convention plans for Islamorada in August?? Not that I can make it to the Florida Keys this time, but I haven't noticed any discussion of late.

Tim

From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org] On Behalf Of MerlinSub at t-online.de via Personal_Submersibles
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 7:44 AM
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules

Yes thats correct. 

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Betreff: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules

Datum: 2017-07-20T21:37:57+0200

Von: "james cottrell via Personal_Submersibles" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

An: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>

Hello Carsten,

Do I understand correctly that SL do not class/ certify personal submarines in the United States?

Thanks,

Greg C

? _____? 

From: Jon Wallace via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> 
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Submersible Rules

I agree.? Does a wet ambient really need to carry a fire extinguisher?? The current wording is much too broad to apply against all underwater vessels and I suppose this is the basic reason why MTS is trying to make some sense out of it all.

On 7/20/2017 12:11 PM, MerlinSub at t-online.de <mailto:MerlinSub at t-online.de>? via Personal_Submersibles wrote:

Most 1 atm rules would not fit for ambient. 

Example: A ambient 1 hour underwater at 40 m releasing his drop wright will kill all occupants instandly. 

Two years ago we get an request to certified such ambient bubble scooters for untrained non diver tourist. 

We decide not to follow this invitaion. Somebody else will maybe do. 

Carsten 

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