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hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles personal_submersibles at psubs.org
Sun Oct 29 18:20:09 EDT 2017


 Rick,I think your right about the tinned wire, but who cares  if you have to replace it in ten years ;-)  I will send you the battery info.Hank
    On Sunday, October 29, 2017, 2:28:21 PM MDT, Rick Patton via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:  
 
 Hank,I thought that golf cart batteries were only 6V? If you can get them in 12V and they still fit in my battery trays and had more reserve amps then that would be the way to go. Did you include a web address for that battery as I don't see one. I have tons of welding lead around but the reason I am not using that is because I was told to use tinned copper wire like for boats as it resists damage from moisture ingress from the ends. I like your idea about the home made copper ends!Rick
On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 11:33 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:

 Rick, have you looked at golf cart 12v batteries?  They are built for your application.  Here is a 12v golf cart group 27 agm battery on eBay.  I looked at a wire size chart and your #2 cable seems to be okay, the chart was a bit confusing with all the wierd colour indicators ;-)I use the heaviest cable I can, Gamma has #4 cables, to be fair though, I had the cable, it is welding ground cable.  To save money I made my own cable ends also.  With 6 volt batteries I need a lot of cable ends.  I take soft copper tubing, in my case the cable is almost 1\2 inch so 1\2 inch copper tubing and I cut 1 inch or so lengths and slip over the bare cable, then hammer it flat and drill a hole.  It works so well, I do the same for all the cables in Gamma.  The last dive I did, I used temporary 12v motors and I wired the system up with the recommended size.  I always go double the size but in this case it was temporary so I was not worried.  About 1\2 mile from shore I felt the cables and they were uncomfortably  warm in my opinion.  I was determined to continue and only half way to my target, so I water cooled the wires where they met the penetrators.  The cable ends were also a bit light (not home made)  so I was worried I might over heat the penetrators.  I took paper towel and soaked it and then stuffed that around and under the cable ends.  I put water on the towel periodically to keep the penetrators cool.  I made the dive and made it back okay.  The moral of the story is go BIG with wires and cable ends.From my experience, I have to say that you will defiantly use all the horsepower you have more often that you think.  In fact you will wish you had more, or maybe that is just me ;-)Hank    On Sunday, October 29, 2017, 3:07:48 AM MDT, xxx xxxxx <mp13 at live.ca> wrote:  
 
  
Golfcart 12V AGM Dry Cell VMAX MB96



  
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