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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Most accurate Hunley model.



Hi Jim.
 
You're welcome. Yes, we had quite a long running discussion about the Hunley and how her ballast tanks operated. Some members here did not agree with
me that the Hunley was at the very least, technically a hybrid ambient/1 atm sub, but I was proven correct by one of the main archaeologists currently working
on the Hunley. Here is a link to the Hunley newsletter #58 site. Look at the top listing for "10. How did the Hunley's ballast tanks work and how did she submerge?"
Which was the questions asked by me. Here is the link.......
http://www.hunleystore.com/NEWSLETTER_58/NEWSLETTER_58.htm#10
 
After clicking on #10 at the page's top listings, you will find my questions followed by a response to me by George Penington webmaster and editor of TheHunley.com telling me my questions had been responded
to by Hunley archaeologist Michael Crisafulli whose responses to my questions immediately followed George Penington's response to me. Michael Crisafulli who is a
Hunley archaeologist currently working on the conservation of the Hunley answered that I was technically correct about the Hunley being ambient. He said she would have technically been ambient while her open top
ballast tank valves were open to flood. He notes that the atmosphere would have been slightly pressurized by this although it would have been slight. BUT THE FACT REMAINS IT WOULD STILL HAVE BEEN PRESSURIZED.
This ambient at one point of operation, followed by being non ambient but the interior being slightly pressurized makes the Hunley unmistakably a hybrid of both an ambient and 1 atm sub. This is what he said and what I
had already deduced from my research on the Hunley. I do not understand what was so hard to understand about this concept by some members here at Psubs who wanted to argue with me or insultingly disparage me about it.
 
So to answer your question of if I am still of the opinion that the Hunley was technically a hybrid of an ambient and a 1 atm submarine, yes I am more convinced than ever after archaeologist Michael Crisafulli's response to my questions.
 
To answer your question of how were my concepts received by others in our psubs group....Some were silent. Some tired of hearing about the Hunley. Others were rude and telling me I was a "Hunley Bunnley" and a "Candlewaster"
(which means someone who reads but learns nothing). Some tried to argued with me. But I knew I was right. All the logic was there if you understood the open top ballast tank operation of the Hunley. The conclusion was inescapable,
she had to be ambient at one point, and a slightly pressurized 1 atm at another point.
It was nice to be vindicated and proven correct by an actual archaeologist working on the Hunley after some of the rather impolite things that were said to me here regarding my opinion of how the Hunley operated.
I posted this link and told of archaeologist Michael Crisafulli's response to my questions here at Psubs once before. That silenced the naysayers and except for one or two that said "I learned something" or to that effect, I never heard
another word, or apology out of anyone. But it is over and done with so I will not harp on my vindication of being correct and only do so because you specifically asked me. The experience caused me to stop posting to the group for some months because I was
so disgusted with the remarks of some members and their inability to grasp what I thought was a relatively easy concept. I still read a lot and keep up with the conservation going on with the Hunley but I try to refrain from posting here too much these
days about the Hunley after my last experience doing so. I made the mistake of "Never try to teach a pig to sing, you waste your time and annoy the pig". So regarding the Hunley I now follow..."cast not your pearls before swine" as it were.
If anyone cares to ask me as you did, I am always happy to answer but I refrain from detailed discussions regarding the Hunley at psubs without someone specifically asking me. It was nice to know you are interested. 
 
Bill Akins.   
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Most accurate Hunley model.

Thanks for the link, Bill.  A very stylish model indeed! 
 
You know, I racall a discussion here about the Hunley some months ago, but I lost track of it.  Tell me, are you still of the opinion that the Hunley was a hybrid ambient submarine?  How was that concept received by others in the group?
 
Cheers!
 
Jim

Akins <lakins1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Hi group.
 
I neglected to post this link in my last posting. It is another for the site that has the most accurate, up to date, specs on the Hunley based on her conservation.
It is a very intricate cutaway model and probably THE definate accurate Hunley model. It should be for $240.00!
Bill Akins.
 
 
 
Bill Akins.
 
 
 


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