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Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Unlimited air supply?
From: Ian Roxborough <irox@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:34:57 -0800
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:24:01 -0800 (PST)
Rob Ossian <rob_neptune@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Anyone got a bootleg nuclear power plant in their sub?

A DIY nuclear power cell/battery:
 http://www.keelynet.com/energy/atombatt.htm

Never tried it, probably never will, but theory seems
fesable as first glance.

Ian.

> --- dino snider <dinosnider666@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > >A friend of mine passed me some info on this guy a
> > few
> > >days ago and I have to admit I'm very intrigued by
> > it:
> > >
> > >http://www.likeafish.biz/
> > >
> > >In a nutshell, ...
> > >I personally have my doubts as to whether this tool
> > >will ever be compact or safe enough (if it even
> > works)
> > >to replace SCUBA tanks like the inventor hopes, but
> > I
> > >could easily see an application for submersibles
> > and
> > >submarines.
> > >
> > >If nothing else, very interesting concept.
> > >--
> > D: Sadly, I checked it out already, and yes it is a
> > 'nothing else' 
> > interesting concept.
> > I think one needed 200L of water each minute to
> > supply air.
> > So instead of compressed air, one needs a whole
> > lotta power and a good pump.
> > If I had a nuclear power plant, maybe it would make
> > sense.
> > It WOULD have a better duration than MEA, which
> > degrades.
> > MEA is used in powerplant co2 scrubbing. It is nasty
> > toxic stuff much like 
> > lye, I think.
> > 
> > I'm curious if using electrolysis is
> > power-comparable to that centrifuge 
> > process. An electric sub *could* allow either/or
> > propulsion or power 
> > generation. Has anybody considered this?
> > I was intrigued by the idea of (sci-fi) small
> > radioactive or body-powered 
> > implants that take the water in your blood and would
> > start to produce oxygen 
> > to release when 02 drop. Of course, co2 is a problem
> > too - would ? baking 
> > soda? sorta Ph manipulation help? My bud Ryan's
> > stepsister has some rare 
> > acid-blood condition, and eats lotsa baking soda to
> > deal with it.
> > 
> > Although unpleasant, could a face mask be used to
> > feed O2 enriched recycled 
> > air to the nose, with exhale thru mouth to water
> > remover 'n co2 scrubber, to 
> > make the cabin air more efficient?
> > 
> > Has anybody built a sub with 1ATM air normally, but
> > the option to use 2+ATMs 
> > for the occasional deeper wreck dive? Of course,
> > nitrogen bubbles would have 
> > to be dealt with as per scuba diving.
> > 
> > Given that my eventual one-man sub proof of concept
> > motor will be housed in 
> > stuff pulled from a dump, I had considered using
> > 2+ATMs of inert gas to 
> > buttress the shell 'n also address the H2 offgassing
> > from batteries 
> > simultaneously. Thoughts?
> > 
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