At port canaveral, the local news did a story about the navy scuba divers who partol the waters wearing rebreathers.
Considering that there's also a trident submarine base there as well, I'm sure the navy knows where all the best fishing spots are... and the exact number of fish there at any given moment.
-- NP
From: "Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pictures of drug "sub"
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 20:52:53 +0000
>
>Carsten,
>
>You are correct, The "inside job" crew member is most likely. I see
>a lot of Coast Guard presence when the ships are in port.
>
>Joe
>
>
>>From: MerlinSub@t-online.de
>>Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>>To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
>>Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pictures of drug "sub"
>>Date: 23 Nov 2006 20:34 GMT
>>
>>A scuba diver with a scooter can do the job much better..
>>
>>A small old harbour tug with some tons of explosives in his hull
>>coming alongside can do this better - even with a renmote control..
>>
>>And much better can do this a passenger or crew member with the
>>right cagobox in the right place..
>>
>>A psub is not very useful for this porpose..
>>The bad guys know that..
>>
>>"Joseph Perkel" <joeperkel@hotmail.com> schrieb:
>> >
>> > NP wrote:
>> >
>> > "And that in and of itself is why I don't think American,
>>Canadian, or
>> > European governments worry about our hobby' "Consider this: For
>>those of you
>> > who own a PSUB, how much cargo can you carry?"
>> >
>> >
>> > Our problem is the bad guys using a psub to attach limpet mines
>>to a docked
>> > cruise ship.
>> >
>> > ...........If I can think of it, you bet others have, both the
>>bad guys and
>> > the authorities.
>> >
>> > Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: "Nomdae Plume" <nomdae@hotmail.com>
>> > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pictures of drug "sub"
>> > >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:46:43 +0000
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >It's one of those huge-risks -vs- huge-rewards businesses. I
>>remember
>> > >watching a news report (long before 9/11) about Columbian drug
>>rings
>> > >purchasing retired commercial airline jets, gutting out
>>everything that
>> > >wasn't absolutely necessary, then filling them full of drugs
>>and flying
>> > >them into the US. By the time the DEA arrived on the remote
>>strip they had
>> > >landed on, the drugs and pilots were long gone... having
>>intentionally
>> > >abandoned the plane.
>> > >
>> > >When the drug cartels consider the cost of a commercial
>>jetliner as a
>> > >one-time "transport fee", that's some serious money being made.
>> > >
>> > >We know that the sub captured several months ago in Columbia
>>was being
>> > >designed with the help of Russian experts. I can guarantee you
>>that we will
>> > >see more and more technological advancements in their methods
>>of
>> > >transportation. Stealth planes, stealth boats, and advanced
>>submarines are
>> > >not that far off (if not already out there). We (in this group)
>>know what's
>> > >available as far as submarine technology is concerned.
>> > >
>> > >And that in and of itself is why I don't think American,
>>Canadian, or
>> > >European governments worry about our hobby. As much as we pride
>>ourselves
>> > >in our technological prowess, we're not even a blip on the
>>radar when it
>> > >comes to the scale drug smuggling is on.
>> > >
>> > >Consider this: For those of you who own a PSUB, how much cargo
>>can you
>> > >carry? And I mean filling it up so that your sub is barely able
>>to surface.
>> > > Now? how far can you go? Remember: Drug smugglers couldn?t
>>give a rat?s
>> > >patootie about depth or safety; the sub is merely a form of
>>transportation.
>> > > Both the sub and its crew are expendable. Could anyone on
>>this forum make
>> > >it from 20 miles off shore onto a secluded beach in the middle
>>of the
>> > >night?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Just my thoughts on the matter,
>> > >
>> > >-- NP
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >From: Philip Ridenauer <akula151@yahoo.com>
>> > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pictures of drug "sub"
>> > >Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:47:38 -0800 (PST)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >The question was asked "how many ppeople have drowned in one of
>>these
>> > >things?" Considering your calculations on their profitability,
>>how many
>> > >have succeeded?
>> > >
>> > >Joseph Perkel <joeperkel@hotmail.com> wrote: Very interesting.
>>Looks like
>> > >ventilation was a least..a consideration. Nice
>> > >and grey too...real hard to see!
>> > >
>> > >Side note: 3 tons of cocaine eh? The following quote from the
>>web.....
>> > >
>> > >"A 'halve' sells for $125. Therefore, from a single ounce, the
>>importer can
>> > >create 56 'halves' which will retail at about $7,000."
>> > >
>> > >7K x 96,000 Ozs = a potential street value of $ 672,000,000
>>million, a
>> > >little more than half a billion.
>> > >
>> > >Do you think some one somewhere is hopping mad?
>> > >
>> > >Do you think submarine smuggling will be tried again??
>> > >
>> > >Joe
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: Ian Roxborough
>> > >
>> > > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
>> > > >Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pictures of drug "sub"
>> > > >Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:37:12 -0800
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Picture here:
>> > > >http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2373836.php
>> > > >
>> > > >A slightly bigger cropped version:
>> > >
>> >http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061121/NEWS/611210397/1052
>> > > >
>> > > >I don't really think it should be called a submarine, unless
>>a
>> > > >major part of it broke off or I'm missing something it
>>doesn't
>> > > >really look it the tower would get submerged.
>>Semi-submersible
>> > > >at best.
>> > > >
>> > > >Cheers,
>> > > >
>> > >Ian.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
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