RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pictures of drug "sub"

[James Huffman <grandadmiraldonitz@yahoo.com>]

Using a PSUB to sink a ship is a waste of time and money.

 

James

MerlinSub@t-online.de wrote:

A scuba diver with a scooter can do the job much better..

A small old harbour tug with some tons of explosives in his hull
coming alongside can do this better - even with a renmote control..

And much better can do this a passenger or crew member with the
right cagobox in the right place..

A psub is not very useful for this porpose..
The bad guys know that..

"Joseph Perkel" schrieb:
>
> NP wrote:
>
> "And that in and of itself is why I don't think American, Canadian, or
> European governments worry about our hobby' "Consider this: For those of you
> who own a PSUB, how much cargo can you carry?"
>
>
> Our problem is the bad guys using a psub to attach limpet mines to a docked
> cruise ship.
>
> ...........If I can think of it, you bet others have, both the bad guys and
> the authorities.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Nomdae Plume"
> >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pictures of drug "sub"
> >Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:46:43 +0000
> >
> >
> >
> >It's one of those huge-risks -vs- huge-rewards businesses. I remember
> >watching a news report (long before 9/11) about Columbian drug rings
> >purchasing retired commercial airline jets, gutting out everything that
> >wasn't absolutely necessary, then filling them full of drugs and flying
> >them into the US. By the time the DEA arrived on the remote strip they had
> >landed on, the drugs and pilots were long gone... having intentionally
> >abandoned the plane.
> >
> >When the drug cartels consider the cost of a commercial jetliner as a
> >one-time "transport fee", that's some serious money being made.
> >
> >We know that the sub captured several months ago in Columbia was being
> >designed with the help of Russian experts. I can guarantee you that we will
> >see more and more technological advancements in their methods of
> >transportation. Stealth planes, stealth boats, and advanced submarines are
> >not that far off (if not already out there). We (in this group) know what's
> >available as far as submarine technology is concerned.
> >
> >And that in and of itself is why I don't think American, Canadian, or
> >European governments worry about our hobby. As much as we pride ourselves
> >in our technological prowess, we're not even a blip on the radar when it
> >comes to the scale drug smuggling is on.
> >
> >Consider this: For those of you who own a PSUB, how much cargo can you
> >carry? And I mean filling it up so that your sub is barely able to surface.
> > Now? how far can you go? Remember: Drug smugglers couldn?t give a rat?s
> >patootie about depth or safety; the sub is merely a form of transportation.
> > Both the sub and its crew are expendable. Could anyone on this forum make
> >it from 20 miles off shore onto a secluded beach in the middle of the
> >night?
> >
> >
> >
> >Just my thoughts on the matter,
> >
> >-- NP
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >From: Philip Ridenauer
> >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> >Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pictures of drug "sub"
> >Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:47:38 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >
> >
> >The question was asked "how many ppeople have drowned in one of these
> >things?" Considering your calculations on their profitability, how many
> >have succeeded?
> >
> >Joseph Perkel wrote: Very interesting. Looks like
> >ventilation was a least..a consideration. Nice
> >and grey too...real hard to see!
> >
> >Side note: 3 tons of cocaine eh? The following quote from the web.....
> >
> >"A 'halve' sells for $125. Therefore, from a single ounce, the importer can
> >create 56 'halves' which will retail at about $7,000."
> >
> >7K x 96,000 Ozs = a potential street value of $ 672,000,000 million, a
> >little more than half a billion.
> >
> >Do you think some one somewhere is hopping mad?
> >
> >Do you think submarine smuggling will be tried again??
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Ian Roxborough
> >
> > >Reply-To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> > >Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pictures of drug "sub"
> > >Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:37:12 -0800
> > >
> > >
> > >Picture here:
> > >http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2373836.php
> > >
> > >A slightly bigger cropped version:
> > >http://www.telegram.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061121/NEWS/611210397/1052
> > >
> > >I don't really think it should be called a submarine, unless a
> > >major part of it broke off or I'm missing something it doesn't
> > >really look it the tower would get submerged. Semi-submersible
> > >at best.
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> >Ian.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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