[PSUBS-MAILIST] Personal_Submersibles Digest, Vol 16, Issue 36
Bob Travis via Personal_Submersibles
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Mon Oct 27 02:07:27 EDT 2014
I would recommend that you purchase the plans. Each K boat is going to be a little different and I think it would be extremely difficult to build one with just a parts list.
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> On Oct 26, 2014, at 7:40 PM, roberto alvarez via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
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> need i buy the plans to have a bill of materials for the k 350? i need know the material list to quote, some one have it' ?
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> 2014-10-26 12:11 GMT-07:00 via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>:
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>> 3. Re: Water jets (Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles)
>> 4. Re: cart last days (hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles)
>> 5. Re: Water jets (Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles)
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>> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 08:15:18 -0700
>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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>> Graham,
>> A jet ski jet is gigantic for a psub. Jet ski's have 50hp and more, the one I have is from a 750 cc two stroke engine. Mine has a 3 inch nozzle at least maybe more. Jets are very bad for maneuvering, they have no grip in the water like a prop. Yes fast ferries use them but they are owned by governments, check the fuel tank size lol. I would do some reading about jet viruses props. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea, and it is a fun idea, I just don't think it will do what you imagine it will. I hope I am wrong.
>> Hank --------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)
>> To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 11:06 AM
>>
>>
>> Hi Hank
>>
>>
>> I agree a jet drive is the
>> way to go did you not think that a jet ski drive
>> was to small and would only drive a small
>> craft. I intend to build a larger
>> jet drive
>> and compress the water. This will be easy and add power to
>> the
>> system the jet drive from a jet ski
>> would not drive a sub but I am certain I
>> can
>> overcome the problems by building a larger jet drive and a
>> compressor.
>> Thank you for your input and I
>> will keep you informed as the project un
>> folds.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>> -----Original
>> Message-----
>> From: Personal_Submersibles
>> [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
>> On Behalf Of hank pronk via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> Sent: 26 October 2014
>> 12:42
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>> Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no
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>>
>> Graham,
>> In the world of marine
>> jet drive it is well known that jet drive takes two
>> times the horse power to do the same job.? Jet
>> drive is well suited to a
>> craft that needs a
>> shallow draft.? I think you will find it very
>> complicated
>> to control and it will be very
>> inefficient. I have been down this road, I
>> love the concept but abandoned it.? If you go
>> forward may I suggest you
>> start with a jet
>> drive.? It is not a simple part to replicate.? The
>> impeller
>> tolerances are critical.? I have a
>> jet unit on the shelf I could donate to
>> your
>> project.? The jet is from a jet ski. I would consider a
>> single rear
>> motor on a full gimbal.
>> Hank
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Subject:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)
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>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 7:39 AM
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>> ?Hi? ?I am near the end of my build? of my k350 and
>> have
>> started to look at new designs I am?
>> interested in building a flyer sub and
>> have
>> come up with a? design which will include a vectored motor
>> drive this
>> will? enable my flyer to hover
>> and stop where ever I want. I have? designed
>> a motor unit which will drive a fan type
>> propeller? as an intake this will
>> force
>> water to the rear of the unit
>> ?where it is
>> compressed ?then it is forced into ducting? which will
>> take?
>> the water to four nozzles on the side
>> of? the craft. The nozzles are able to
>> turn
>> three hundred and? sixty degrees? both side are
>> independent of one
>> another so? rolls will
>> be achievable. The reason for a vectored motor is
>> you only need one motor source and one power
>> pack this will? ease the
>> maintenance and
>> increase the enjoyment of using? your sub. I am
>> interested
>> in the clubs thought of this
>> kind? of design. ?Graham
>> ?
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>> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 08:16:37 -0700
>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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>> Graham,
>> message me at hankpronk at live.ca I am happy to send you some stuff.
>> Hank--------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)
>> To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 11:06 AM
>>
>>
>> Hi Hank
>>
>>
>> I agree a jet drive is the
>> way to go did you not think that a jet ski drive
>> was to small and would only drive a small
>> craft. I intend to build a larger
>> jet drive
>> and compress the water. This will be easy and add power to
>> the
>> system the jet drive from a jet ski
>> would not drive a sub but I am certain I
>> can
>> overcome the problems by building a larger jet drive and a
>> compressor.
>> Thank you for your input and I
>> will keep you informed as the project un
>> folds.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>> -----Original
>> Message-----
>> From: Personal_Submersibles
>> [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
>> On Behalf Of hank pronk via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> Sent: 26 October 2014
>> 12:42
>> To: Personal Submersibles General
>> Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no
>> subject)
>>
>>
>> Graham,
>> In the world of marine
>> jet drive it is well known that jet drive takes two
>> times the horse power to do the same job.? Jet
>> drive is well suited to a
>> craft that needs a
>> shallow draft.? I think you will find it very
>> complicated
>> to control and it will be very
>> inefficient. I have been down this road, I
>> love the concept but abandoned it.? If you go
>> forward may I suggest you
>> start with a jet
>> drive.? It is not a simple part to replicate.? The
>> impeller
>> tolerances are critical.? I have a
>> jet unit on the shelf I could donate to
>> your
>> project.? The jet is from a jet ski. I would consider a
>> single rear
>> motor on a full gimbal.
>> Hank
>> --------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via
>> Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Subject:
>> [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)
>> To:
>> "'Personal Submersibles General
>> Discussion'"
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 7:39 AM
>>
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>> ?Hi? ?I am near the end of my build? of my k350 and
>> have
>> started to look at new designs I am?
>> interested in building a flyer sub and
>> have
>> come up with a? design which will include a vectored motor
>> drive this
>> will? enable my flyer to hover
>> and stop where ever I want. I have? designed
>> a motor unit which will drive a fan type
>> propeller? as an intake this will
>> force
>> water to the rear of the unit
>> ?where it is
>> compressed ?then it is forced into ducting? which will
>> take?
>> the water to four nozzles on the side
>> of? the craft. The nozzles are able to
>> turn
>> three hundred and? sixty degrees? both side are
>> independent of one
>> another so? rolls will
>> be achievable. The reason for a vectored motor is
>> you only need one motor source and one power
>> pack this will? ease the
>> maintenance and
>> increase the enjoyment of using? your sub. I am
>> interested
>> in the clubs thought of this
>> kind? of design. ?Graham
>> ?
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>> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:16:38 -0000
>> From: Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'"
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Water jets
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>> Hi Marc de Piolenc
>>
>> I agree whole heartedly there is nothing inefficient about a water jet just
>> point it one way and add power and you will end up going the other way as
>> they say a=b= push. I will carry on with this and have a working craft at
>> the end to enjoy.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Personal_Submersibles [mailto:personal_submersibles-bounces at psubs.org]
>> On Behalf Of Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles
>> Sent: 26 October 2014 14:11
>> To: Personal Submersibles General Discussion
>> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Water jets
>>
>> There is nothing inherently inefficient about waterjets. There are
>> commercial fast ferries using them and getting very good thrust per
>> horsepower - better than any supercavitating propeller could do at the same
>> speed, certainly.
>>
>> Lousy design will of course produce poor results, and jets are much less
>> amenable to rule-of-thumb construction than open propellers. But whether it
>> is "well known" or not, good design will produce good results.
>>
>> Marc de Piolenc
>>
>> On 10/26/2014 8:41 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
>> >
>> > Graham,
>> > In the world of marine jet drive it is well known that jet drive takes two
>> times the horse power to do the same job. Jet drive is well suited to a
>> craft that needs a shallow draft. I think you will find it very complicated
>> to control and it will be very inefficient. I have been down this road, I
>> love the concept but abandoned it. If you go forward may I suggest you
>> start with a jet drive. It is not a simple part to replicate. The impeller
>> tolerances are critical. I have a jet unit on the shelf I could donate to
>> your project. The jet is from a jet ski. I would consider a single rear
>> motor on a full gimbal.
>> > Hank --------------------------------------------
>> > On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)
>> > To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'"
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> > Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 7:39 AM
>> >
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>> > #yiv9417249292 Hi I am near the end of my build
>> > of my k350 and have started to look at new designs I am
>> > interested in building a flyer sub and have come up with a
>> > design which will include a vectored motor drive this will
>> > enable my flyer to hover and stop where ever I want. I have
>> > designed a motor unit which will drive a fan type propeller
>> > as an intake this will force water to the rear of the unit
>> > where it is compressed then it is forced into ducting
>> > which will take the water to four nozzles on the side of
>> > the craft. The nozzles are able to turn three hundred and
>> > sixty degrees both side are independent of one another so
>> > rolls will be achievable. The reason for a vectored motor is
>> > you only need one motor source and one power pack this will
>> > ease the maintenance and increase the enjoyment of using
>> > your sub. I am interested in the clubs thought of this kind
>> > of design. Graham
>> >
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>> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:25:40 -0700
>> From: hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles
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>> Alec,
>> This project will take some time, and some experimenting. I am using a 23cubic inch hyd motor to drive the cart. I am not sure that will do it, so I am building it to take any motor.
>> Hank--------------------------------------------
>> On Sun, 10/26/14, Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] cart last days
>> To: "Personal Submersibles General Discussion" <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 9:07 AM
>>
>> What
>> impresses me is that to most of us this would be a six month
>> or year-long project, but I would not be surprised to see
>> pictures in a day or two!
>> Alec
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at
>> 6:21 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles <personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> wrote:
>> I just
>> pushed my launch cart into the shop for the last time.?
>> Tomorrow it will be reborn.? The cart is getting a new rear
>> axel that steers via hyd cylinder, the front is getting a
>> 1/2 ton chev differential with a hydraulic motor to drive
>> it.? The cart then gets two dual chamber pontoons that act
>> as ballast tanks.? On top of one pontoon will be a 6 1/2 hp
>> Honda motor that drives a hyd pump to power and steer the
>> cart,? as well as a 24v alternator to charge my sub
>> batteries.? I will be able to drive the cart with the sub
>> on it down the boat ramp or beach or whatever into the
>> water.? The cart will stay anchored in the water, until I
>> am ready to put the sub on and drive back to my trailer.
>> SWEET
>>
>> Hank
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:11:26 -0400
>> From: Alec Smyth via Personal_Submersibles
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>> I don't think water jets are necessarily inefficient, but if there is
>> considerable piping around of the water before it exits through the jets,
>> that's what I was referring to. However, even that was not meant as
>> criticism, it is just a normal trade-off. It is surely less efficient than
>> a conventional direct-coupled prop, but you also get
>> entanglement-resistance and maneuverability.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Marc de Piolenc via Personal_Submersibles
>> <personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>>
>> > There is nothing inherently inefficient about waterjets. There are
>> > commercial fast ferries using them and getting very good thrust per
>> > horsepower - better than any supercavitating propeller could do at the same
>> > speed, certainly.
>> >
>> > Lousy design will of course produce poor results, and jets are much less
>> > amenable to rule-of-thumb construction than open propellers. But whether it
>> > is "well known" or not, good design will produce good results.
>> >
>> > Marc de Piolenc
>> >
>> > On 10/26/2014 8:41 PM, hank pronk via Personal_Submersibles wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Graham,
>> >> In the world of marine jet drive it is well known that jet drive takes
>> >> two times the horse power to do the same job. Jet drive is well suited to
>> >> a craft that needs a shallow draft. I think you will find it very
>> >> complicated to control and it will be very inefficient. I have been down
>> >> this road, I love the concept but abandoned it. If you go forward may I
>> >> suggest you start with a jet drive. It is not a simple part to replicate.
>> >> The impeller tolerances are critical. I have a jet unit on the shelf I
>> >> could donate to your project. The jet is from a jet ski. I would consider
>> >> a single rear motor on a full gimbal.
>> >> Hank --------------------------------------------
>> >> On Sun, 10/26/14, Graham Bayliss via Personal_Submersibles <
>> >> personal_submersibles at psubs.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] (no subject)
>> >> To: "'Personal Submersibles General Discussion'" <
>> >> personal_submersibles at psubs.org>
>> >> Received: Sunday, October 26, 2014, 7:39 AM
>> >>
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>> >> #yiv9417249292 Hi I am near the end of my build
>> >> of my k350 and have started to look at new designs I am
>> >> interested in building a flyer sub and have come up with a
>> >> design which will include a vectored motor drive this will
>> >> enable my flyer to hover and stop where ever I want. I have
>> >> designed a motor unit which will drive a fan type propeller
>> >> as an intake this will force water to the rear of the unit
>> >> where it is compressed then it is forced into ducting
>> >> which will take the water to four nozzles on the side of
>> >> the craft. The nozzles are able to turn three hundred and
>> >> sixty degrees both side are independent of one another so
>> >> rolls will be achievable. The reason for a vectored motor is
>> >> you only need one motor source and one power pack this will
>> >> ease the maintenance and increase the enjoyment of using
>> >> your sub. I am interested in the clubs thought of this kind
>> >> of design. Graham
>> >>
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