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Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radar



Is RADAR really necessary?
 
First of all, it's not the smartest thing to operate a P size sub without some surface support out there with you.  If you feel you need radar, that's the place for it.
 
Second, a P-sub is way to close to the surface of the water for radar to see very far.  Unless there is fog, in which case it's highly unlikely you'd be out there anyway, just a few feet off the surface I can see as far by eye as a radar can. 
 
There are better places to spend the budgeted money of a P-subber.
 
Just my opinion,
Dan H.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] radar

It'd be nice if there was a non-rotating array available - a phased array antenna - to eliminate the moving parts.

Paul

On 2/14/06, Ian Roxborough <irox@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Hi Sean,

The Kokes Marine Technologies RS series submarines have radar, you can
read more about the RS series on their website (www.researchsubmarine.com).
Although their used to be easier to navigate... here are schematics with
the radar:
http://www.researchsubmarine.com/flash/RS1EXTERrev12.jpg
http://www.researchsubmarine.com/flash/RS2INTER-SUB2.jpg
http://www.researchsubmarine.com/flash/PHANTOM-SUB2.jpg

I think the p-scope/radar combination is cool.

I've been thinking about how to implement a surface radar which can
survive submersion.  I'm thinking of two possibilities, the first would
be have the radar dome pressure compensated.  The second would be
to pressurize the radar dome to a greater pressure than the max
operation (or test) depth.

Another option might be to do a way with the radar dome/housing and
just seal antenar so it can with stand submersion.

Ian.


On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 11:36:02 -0800
"Sean T. Stevenson" < cast55@telus.net> wrote:

> Just wondering how one would go about implementing a surface radar?  Obviously
> this would be for a larger, untended sub like Carsten's project, or anything
> similar for which surface running is a design consideration.  Would it be
> possible to modify one of the standard consumer radar units (Furuno, Ratheon,
> etc.) by replacing or augmenting the supplied radome housing with something
> depth capable?   I don't know much about these scanners, but if the guts are
> separable from the outer shell, this seems plausible - provided the depth
> capable housing was made of something transparent to the radar.  Alternatively,
> what about some mechanical configuration to keep the scanner in a 1 atm space
> when submerged, but deployable on the surface?  In either case, it is desireable
> to get such a scanner as high as possible when surfaced, but then have some
> means of reducing the profile of the masts / superstructure when running
> submerged.  Come to think of it, a folding mast that incorporated radar, radar
> reflector, nav lights, VHF and so forth might not be a bad idea.  Any thoughts?
>
> -Sean
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