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RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] psub convention in Raystown



Notwithstanding the technical benefits of using scuba air, using scuba services can be a hinderance to someone that does not have a diving license.  At least around my area you can't get tanks filled without showing your dive card.  Even though we usually highly recommend that psubbers get their diving license first, what is a non-diver to do?  Assuming a non-diver can order a tank via mail-order, you might consider checking with your local fire department.  I always assumed our FD sent their air tanks out for filling and was surprised to see an air filling unit at the station one day.  Seems they go through enough air just with training that it was worthwhile investing in their own filling station.  They told me that they fill tanks for local divers upon request.
 
Jon
 
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org [mailto:owner-personal_submersibles@psubs.org]On Behalf Of Jay K. Jeffries
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:09 PM
To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
Subject: RE: [PSUBS-MAILIST] psub convention in Raystown

Let me clarify several of the points that Alec was making:

1.    While the standards for scuba air require almost no oil, a very minimal is allowed.  Only Class "E" air used in the mixing of NITROX is no oil allowed.  Small amounts of oil will accelerate the deterioration of the LP and HP flexible hoses associated with a SCUBA regulator.

2.    There are two primary reasons for NO moisture in the air finally compressed into the SCUBA cylinders:

a.    On swift release of air from a SCUBA tank as in blowing ballast at depth in an emergency instead of motoring to near the surface, the adiabatic cooling will occur within the tank resulting in condensation.  This moisture does not subsequently become revaporized when the tank is later refilled.  The accumulated moisture will cause a hastened corrosion of the tank interior resulting in a failed hydro or tank failure.

b.    If the gas expansion occurs under low temperature ambient conditions, the moisture can freeze in the 1st or 2nd stages of the regulator that is surrounded by air resulting in an uncontrollable free flow condition which can result in rapid loss of tank pressure.

3.    SCUBA tanks available from AGA are rated to 4,400 psi.

4.    Studies conducted in the 70s at the University of Rhode Island from that 99.9% of SCUBA tank failures due to corrosion were “soft” and not explosive (i.e., the air slow leaked out of a pin hole).  A catastrophic failure of a SCUBA tank releases the energy equivalent to 10 pounds of dynamite.  Aluminum tanks have a variety of other reasons for catastrophic failure such as overheating and brittle fractures forming in the neck due to poor forming methods to name a few.

Respectfully,

Jay K. Jeffries

Ocean Engineer

Andros Is., Bahamas