Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] big brother?

["Rick and Marcia" <empiricus@telus.net>]

A thought here: legal definitions sometimes depend on how an entity defines
itself.  If PSUBS makes itself out to be an advice giving organisation that
goes into rule setting mode, then chances are litigation should be something
to be concerned with.

As far as my experience with this group goes (back to the '90's) we are a
bunch of guys getting together using the Net as a communication medium.
That's it.  As Ray dutifully and rightfully expresses on the PSUBS home
page, everything discussed on this list is nothing more than idle
conversation and is NOT to be misconstrued with sanctioned technical/legal
advice. Any form of advice takes the form of non-binding, casual
conversation and nothing more.

That particular issue has already been dealt with in this group at a
professional level (ref. current thread about PSUBS in situ operations) by
most of us at some level or other: Commercial/scientific/recreational u/w
operations, the aviation industry, medical protocols, etc.

Enough with the rules, etc. unless it has to do with safety protocols.  Most
of us are familiar with dive masters, etc.  Let's just use the existing
professional protocols and have fun.  So, forget litigation concerns.

Rick L
Vancouver


----- Original Message -----
From: <vbra676539@aol.com>
To: <personal_submersibles@psubs.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 6:07 AM
Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] big brother?


> Do I hear any OTHER libertarians groaning out there? Vance
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gslaterp@hotmail.com
> To: personal_submersibles@psubs.org
> Sent: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 8:42 AM
> Subject: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Well...
>
>
> I see a lot of talk about seperating PSUBs.Org from liability, but I was
wondering... Why not just incorporate as a professional association, require
all members to sign a waiver stating they accept full responsability for
their safety and the design/operation of their vessel.
>
> This way PSubs could issue "Guidance" (Documents stating certain
requirements and standards that should be adhered to, but are not legally
binding) and require that any vessel taking part in events sponsored by
PSubs meet guidance to participate as well as having a waiver on file. Keep
conventions and events open to the public by all means, but if you wish to
dive at an event as part of the event you need to meet guidance and have a
waiver.
>
> Think of it as.... well a professional organization much like Engineers
have. without the extra of being a regulating body outside the
orgainization, just within it's own ranks, and even within it's own ranks
recognizing the experimental nature of this particular field and
"regulating" only so much as to co-ordinate events.
>
>
>
> George H. Slaterpryce III
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