[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pursuing safety without accident data

I'd expect a lot of people would be in agreement on producing a set of guidelines as described by Cliff and the idea of design reviews sounds good to me.  I think it's mostly a question of how to move these solid, very professional procedures from government and for-profit corporations into the hobbyist, amateur world. 

Should PSUBS put together a collection of guidelines?  Some informal information is available in the PSUBS Design Guidelines and Tools page but the ABS, Lloyds, etc. information should be referenced too.  Maybe just a well organized index of where to find these documents, and what to do with the information.  For example, which guidelines apply to which stage of your project. 

Regarding the independent design review, some thoughts are:
1) It'd be an interesting chance to review another person's hard work,
2) A lot of work.  Much time would be needed to properly review a design,
3) A large responsibility considering the human life risk,
4) Could it be formalized into a PSUB Design Review document?

A Design Review doc could be a useful 'study guide' both for PSUBers working on their designs, and for a review committee looking at a design.  Maybe a set of checklists, required drawings, and an 'essay' section for describing procedures? 

Collecting design and operational guidelines sounds like a much larger effort than just collecting incident reports.  I myself could help design and build a web application to collect and present incident reports in a structured way.


Paul


On 1/9/06, Cliff Redus < dr_redus@devtex.net> wrote:
Doug,
 
Thanks for your insightful comments on how to progress safety in our PSUB community.  My terse digestion of your comments boil down two a few key points:
  1. focus on the precursors to accidents, and shift from outcome measures to process measures
  2. psubs community could implement this "focus on the precursors to accidents" by establishing an area on the website for lessons learned, common mistakes, safety observations. 
  3. psubs community could implement a process oriented safety focus by encouraging adherence to "a set of best safety practices for designing, fabricating, testing, operating and maintaining psubs" such as design guides developed by ABS, Lloyd's,   PVHO. 
I for one concur and think we do a lot of this through the existing forum.  There is however, a missing piece, the independent review.