IMHO, any sort of formalised documentation
would attract government. We would have become yet another bureaucracy of
our own choosing.
Rick L
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Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:41
PM
Subject: Re: [PSUBS-MAILIST] Pursuing
safety without accident data
I'd expect a lot of people would be in agreement on producing a
set of guidelines as described by Cliff and the idea of design reviews sounds
good to me. I think it's mostly a question of how to move these solid,
very professional procedures from government and for-profit corporations into
the hobbyist, amateur world.
Should PSUBS put together a
collection of guidelines? Some informal information is available in the
PSUBS Design Guidelines and Tools page but the ABS, Lloyds, etc. information
should be referenced too. Maybe just a well organized index of where to
find these documents, and what to do with the information. For example,
which guidelines apply to which stage of your project.
Regarding
the independent design review, some thoughts are: 1) It'd be an interesting
chance to review another person's hard work, 2) A lot of work. Much
time would be needed to properly review a design, 3) A large responsibility
considering the human life risk, 4) Could it be formalized into a PSUB
Design Review document?
A Design Review doc could be a useful 'study guide' both for
PSUBers working on their designs, and for a review committee looking at a
design. Maybe a set of checklists, required drawings, and an 'essay'
section for describing procedures?
Collecting design and
operational guidelines sounds like a much larger effort than just collecting
incident reports. I myself could help design and build a web application
to collect and present incident reports in a structured way.
Paul
On 1/9/06, Cliff
Redus < dr_redus@devtex.net>
wrote:
Doug,
Thanks for your insightful comments on how to
progress safety in our PSUB community. My terse digestion of your
comments boil down two a few key points:
- focus on the precursors to accidents, and
shift from outcome measures to process measures
- psubs community could implement this "focus on
the precursors to accidents" by establishing an area on the
website for lessons learned, common mistakes, safety observations.
- psubs community could implement a process
oriented safety focus by encouraging adherence to "a set of best safety
practices for designing, fabricating, testing, operating and maintaining
psubs" such as design guides developed by ABS, Lloyd's,
PVHO.
I for one concur and think we do a lot of this
through the existing forum. There is however, a missing piece, the
independent review.
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